432Hz - Natural Tone

[Wind]

440Hz as the middle note A was changed by the Germans and centres the pitch in the mind instead of the heart.

It seems pretty much everyone else was tuning A to 432Hz before that.
& i can really tell the difference!! 432 is much more pleasant, more magical to listen to, it ties in with all the sacred geometry, phi, etc..


http://www.432hz.co.uk/

http://www.mythsdreamssymbols.com/432.html

http://www.greatdreams.com/432.htm


http://web.archive.org/web/200307130...32/432main.htm


http://www.omega432.com/index.html

Some linkage to explore!
Well.. what do you think? did you detune your music already? have you heard about it before? the name of psytrance act cosmic tone suggests they may already be doing this..

for an example of the difference this 8Hz makes have a listen to the last link..
i can really feel the difference between the two pieces..

Is it a mistake? Is it a conspiracy? It certainly sounds better at 432 x

Peace

[Red Rythmic Dragon]

funny, i was being told about this last weekend and i thought it was all a load of hippy twaddle then. having followed the links i'm even more convinced.

[Faction]

I am of the opinion that an 8Hz difference in global tuning makes no difference whatsoever to anything particularly significant. Even more so in dance music where tracks are as a matter of course played back at different speeds (and therefore tunings) to those they were originally written at. If you think you can hear a difference I suggest you familiarise yourself with the principle of the Placebo Effect.

For those of you who want to know what the hell this thread is about, I refer you here:
http://forum.isratrance.com/the-cosm...d-mathematics/
I would be particularly interested in any input Squagnut might have to the Isratrance discussion, save for the fact I have no wish to inflict Moki on anyone, however much help I think she needs.

[Wind]

144bpm ties in with the 432Hz frequency

if it stays at that pitch, it is the cosmic tone. did you read about how this ties in with the sun, the moon, the earth & the pyramids.. & phi?

[Nanook]

There was a VERY long discussion on Celtic forum a while ago...
....interesting stuff, for sure.

[trancetheory]

I prefer 437hz myself, way more trance than 440 and 432, amatuers

[Scoff Cruddle]

144bpm ties in with the 432Hz frequency

if it stays at that pitch, it is the cosmic tone. did you read about how this ties in with the sun, the moon, the earth & the pyramids.. & phi?

Where 144 bpm = 8640 Hz...um yes and we can divide 8640 by 432 to get 20. And?

Shurely the experiment would be to pitch shift everything so that all your 440 Hz A's are at 432 Hz and see where something profound happens*

Also, ties in with phi? Phi is a letter in the Greek alphabet (their letter f) and has no mathematical significance, other than being used as a symbol in various equations (anyone like their quantum mechanics?). If you meant pi, as in 3.1425 etc etc....then carrying out any operation on 432 with pi, which is not a rational number, ain't going to give you anything profound.


*I suspect not...numerology being a bit of a giggle, but you know folks, just because you can divide a by b and get c, where c is an integer, really doesn't mean that alien lizards rule the world, or that David Icke built the pyramids!


[edit] and I really spent too long on that...can you tell I am getting bored being off work yet?

[Wind]

phi is the symbol used to express the golden ratio doofus.
the golden ratio = 1.61803399

so if you accept pi, then you also do phi.. you are just not informed enough.
thanks for your well informed post!

[Scoff Cruddle]

phi is the symbol used to express the golden ratio doofus.
the golden ratio = 1.61803399

so if you accept pi, then you also do phi.. you are just not informed enough.
thanks for your well informed post!

Fairly muff, you need to be more specific then! Phi (dammit, why isn't symbol installed as a font here, so I can just write it?!), is used to represent many things, and therefore has no unique meaning to all. To me, it would most commonly be used to represent porosity, but I suspected that was not what you meant.

I stand 100% behind my numerology comments though!



BTW you sig did make me chuckle though...

[JPsychodelicacy]

Sacred Geometry's not as good as it used to be.

(And it was a load of bollocks back then too. )

J.

[Nanook]

Sacred Geometry's not as good as it used to be.

[Scoff Cruddle]

Sacred Geometry's not as good as it used to be.

I blame the masons! ;-)

[Wind]

oh dear

[kayelem]

144bpm ties in with the 432Hz frequency

144bpm = 2.4bps (beats per second, cycles per second, Hertz, whatever.)

I think I'm missing something.

I have to multiply that by 180 to get 432Hz. 180 is a nice round number, but so are a lot of them.

What I find more intriguing is that, at 144bpm, the usual psytrance bassline would be motoring along at four times that 2.4Hz, that's 9.6Hz.

9.6Hz falls neatly within the 8–12Hz range for Alpha waves.

[sideshow bob]

What I find more intriguing is that, at 144bpm, the usual psytrance bassline would be motoring along at four times that 2.4Hz, that's 9.6Hz.

9.6Hz falls neatly within the 8–12Hz range for Alpha waves.

But by that reasoning the alpha wave range covers anything from 120-180 bpm. Is 144 really that special when placed in that range?

[sideshow bob]

Damn I just lost my other post!

I'm not convinced by the samples of 'silent night' linked above. Listen to some music at one frequency, then listen to the same thing with the pitch raised a bit, and of course you'll feel an increase in tension. Dark psy djs know this, that's why they often mix in tunes 1 or 2 semitones above the last one.

I do think some music sounds inherently better in certain keys, and different keys have a different feel to me. But are these 'better' pitches the same for all people all the time everywhere? Not so sure.

Still it's worth having a go at writing in 432, nothing to lose :-)

[Nanook]

But by that reasoning the alpha wave range covers anything from 120-180 bpm.

true.
120bpm to 180bpm
This came up in a conversation I had recently about which is more ''psychedelic''.....120bpm techno....or 160bpm ''full on'' psy.....

The conversation then turned to BWF (brain wave function)....which is indeed linked to this 432hz chat

[ChrisCabbage]

You're all wrong.

604Hz FTW!

[Nanook]

I thought it was 23hz??

actually.....
......We need some speakers capable of 7hz at 150db....

...the dreaded, ''brown noise''

[whitedog]

Isn't 7Hz worse than that?
Isn't it supposed cause horrible death by mashing your intenal orgqans into a pulp?