ableton v cubase/logic for production beginners

[JPsychodelicacy]

Having said that, I'm a big proponent of Synth1:

http://www.geocities.jp/daichi1969/softsynth/

It's free, and while it doesn't have the smoothest sound in the world (which can be an advantage, as I've said elsewhere), as a learning tool it's bloody amazing (at least, I found it that way when I was learning). The reasons for this are:

- It's essentially a Nord work-alike, and as such it's useful for learning the bedrock of the kinds of sounds that are bread-and-butter in this style
- The interface could barely be any simpler (don't be afraid of the number of knobs - you can get by just by tweaking a few of them)
- It's very CPU-friendly, so you can layer loads of them, if you so wish
- It has some basic effects, so you can work out how different effects affect your noises without having to worry about an insert chain
- From the default sound, it's about 10 clicks from a whole world of psy-naughtiness...
- Turn off Chorus (Click "ON" button under Chorus/Flanger so it's grey)
- Turn off LFO (Click /\ button by LFO 1 until it's grey)
- Switch Osc 1 & 2 to Sawtooth (click till red light is by |\ )
- Make sure Filter is set to LP24, and turn TRK and AMT to 0)
- Play a note at the bottom of the keyboard (around C0-C1 - you should just hear repeated clicks)
- Twiddle FRQ on the filter - instant liquid squelchy goodness!

Anyhoo, enough plugging - but I thought I'd throw it out there. Send me a PM if you want my patches.

Good hunting!

J.

[arghhh]

if you've installed the suite version i'd recommend spending some time getting to know operator, it's a really powerful synth.

[lurk]

Having said that, I'm a big proponent of Synth1:

http://www.geocities.jp/daichi1969/softsynth/

It's free, and while it doesn't have the smoothest sound in the world (which can be an advantage, as I've said elsewhere), as a learning tool it's bloody amazing (at least, I found it that way when I was learning). The reasons for this are:

- It's essentially a Nord work-alike, and as such it's useful for learning the bedrock of the kinds of sounds that are bread-and-butter in this style
- The interface could barely be any simpler (don't be afraid of the number of knobs - you can get by just by tweaking a few of them)
- It's very CPU-friendly, so you can layer loads of them, if you so wish
- It has some basic effects, so you can work out how different effects affect your noises without having to worry about an insert chain
- From the default sound, it's about 10 clicks from a whole world of psy-naughtiness...
- Turn off Chorus (Click "ON" button under Chorus/Flanger so it's grey)
- Turn off LFO (Click /\ button by LFO 1 until it's grey)
- Switch Osc 1 & 2 to Sawtooth (click till red light is by |\ )
- Make sure Filter is set to LP24, and turn TRK and AMT to 0)
- Play a note at the bottom of the keyboard (around C0-C1 - you should just hear repeated clicks)
- Twiddle FRQ on the filter - instant liquid squelchy goodness!

Anyhoo, enough plugging - but I thought I'd throw it out there. Send me a PM if you want my patches.

Good hunting!

J.

jeebus, its like learning swedish

thanks, joe, will check this bad boy out.

[Faction]

jeebus, its like learning swedish

Yeah, except your teachers don't expect you go shave your nads.

[lurk]

[Biggins]

Synth 1 is great, it does lots of different stuff. here are some presets for it (link stolen from long thread on KVR):

synth 1 presets:

http://www.mediafire.com/?khwmxlwh1wx

also try grabbing....

Interuppter Delays:

http://www.interruptor.ch/vst_overview.shtml

(get bionic delay, analogic delay)

Togu Audio Line (variou stuff from here)

Elek7ro (synth) http://kunz.corrupt.ch/?Products:VST_TAL-Elek7ro
Bassline (synth)- http://kunz.corrupt.ch/?Products:VST_TAL-BassLine
TAL-DUB 2 (delay) - http://kunz.corrupt.ch/?Products:VST_TAL-DUB-II
TAL-DUB (delay) - http://kunz.corrupt.ch/?Products:VST_TAL-Dub

Superwave P8:

http://www.superwavesynths.co.uk/product_p8.htm

Bootsy "Epic Verb" reverb & Presets

http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/downloads/

Liquidsonic Reverberate LE (free convolution reverb)

http://www.liquidsonics.com/software.htm

Kjaerhus Audio

i'm struggling to find a URL for this but this is a nice suite of FX with reverb/delay/chorus etc etc but if you can find them, they are worth a d/l

Bluc Cat Audio Free stuff (Various stuff)

http://www.bluecataudio.com/Products..._FreewarePack/

Elektrostudio "Analog" VSTs

http://elektrostudio.ovh.org/index2.php?go=2

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Places to look for stuff:

KVR:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php

Gersic:

http://www.gersic.com/plugins/

Don't Crack:

http://www.dontcrack.com/freeware/

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Also, get speakfreakas Psykick Layer vst (can't find a link)
Speakfreakas vampyromorphidia synth (can't find a link)

and

Aeons "Squelch" vst - http://www.psymusic.co.uk/forum/show...hlight=squelch

[Niria]

I use a mix of Ableton and Logic because I find it easier and faster to jam out ideas in Ableton, but I prefer arranging and mixing in Logic

Totally agree.