60s Psychedelia

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I'm a fairly big fan of all the oldy stuff like kaleidoscope, zombies, velvet underground, floyd etc and was just thinking if that kind of music is regarded as being the same as what psytrance is today. Perhaps thats where psytrance got its name? I dont know! But in the 60s that genre was definately the alternative music to listen to. Nowadays there is alternative rock/pop but its not really THAT alternative is it? Perhaps in 40 years time, more people will have heard of psy and they will look back to this time and see it as a progression from the old 60s stuff.
During the 70s and 80s, i think bands like joy division and the smiths were seen as the "alternative". I'm not too sure cos i wasnt around much then. But if that is the case (perhaps it can be argued) then my musical tastes seem to have followed a pattern from decade to decade.
My oh my how it has evolved!

(kinda hoping for a musical discussion btw!)

Dave
 
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imo opinion the first tune i heard that on reflection and relistening made me think wow that sounds like now was jean micheal jarre's oxygene when i dug it out for a chill out set three of four years ago

a lo of the other artists mentioned apart from pink floyd would describe as bit avant garde

and dont forget acts like the enid or van der graff generator also psychedelic but not in a trance or dance sorta way
 

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There's a track called Monolight by Tangerine Dream. It dates from the mid-70s and, apart from no doofs, has a lot of elements of modern psy. Also keeping the continuum going were bands like Gong and Here&Now, with the advent of the Ommmmmmmm riff. Check the Gong/H&N Live'77 album, side 2 has the Ali Baba/Mama Maya Mantra - deffo proto-psy. The 70s weren't bad for trance! :grandad:

Also see Thingibob's Amazing Expanding Headband...
 

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The 70s were indeed good for trance! Well, electronic music anyway! Tangerine dream turned pretty shit after a while though, when one of the members left. Phaedra is a classic album though, as is jarre's Oxygene.
 

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Agreed about Oxygene, tho' I never owned a copy - it was everywhere anyway.
Does anyone remember a tune called Magic Fly by Space? It had novelty value but kinda did something for me (I was prolly about 12 when it came out).
 
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Tontos Amazing Head Band - fucking hell forgotten that one

tripping round a mates listening to it when came this voice with an italian accent 'she musta 'ave de bigga da titsa' -my did i laugh - in fact so taken with it went and got the album = playd one side played the other where this vocal? went back to mates and explained - he said 'oh no that was me as i walked back into them room - random talking
 

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How old are you now?!
I'm only 18! I talk like i know these bands so well but ive only ever been able to look back from the present. How i wish i could have experienced some of the music as it happened! Although it is quite nice being able to search through the history of music and find what i like! Theres so much more to discover!
 

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:lol1: @Dave arc-i :Smile3: I've had that kind of thing a few times!

Rave Dave, there's always more to discover. It's great! I'm 39. While psy is what I love to go and stomp to, I love music from all ages and many cultures - I'm not gonna make a list :Smile3: It's like a huge feast! Yum! :Grin:
 

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When thinking of how we got to psychedelic trance from psychedelic rock try following:

Pink Floyd -> Emerson Lake and Palmer -> Hawkwind -> Ozric Tentacles -> Eat Static

These are obviously just indications, omitting many many important bands but you can see the pattern.

That's what I think anyway.

And I'm full of shit! :runsmile:
 

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Psytrance is just Nouveau-Psy anyway, right? There's always been Brainspazzed Fractal Music, whether you were listening to The Beatles, Bhangra or Whale song.
 

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Did someone say 60's Psych??? My speciality :Wink3: Tonto's Expanding Headband?? Used to play some in me chill out sets. My White Bicycle by Tomorrow (1967) clocks in at 145 bpm, as does You Shouldn't Do That by Hawkwind (1971). I would say people like Steve Hillage and dare I say it, Raja Ram are the link factors between the 60's and 70's stuff with modern day psychedelic trance. If you need any recommendations, then let me know.


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pink floyds 'on the run' mixes really well with hallucinogens deranger (after it speeds up to about 150)

played it in a set once everyone went nuts, and then mixed in another tune which i forget the name of which has a long trippy start with a build up in the beginning, timed it so the sound of the guitar/airoplane crash on the floyd happens exactly as the build up starts on the other track.......talk about a crowd going mental
 

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Blender Bender said:
When thinking of how we got to psychedelic trance from psychedelic rock try following:

Pink Floyd -> Emerson Lake and Palmer -> Hawkwind -> Ozric Tentacles -> Eat Static

These are obviously just indications, omitting many many important bands but you can see the pattern.

That's what I think anyway.

And I'm full of shit! :runsmile:
Ermmm.. I'm not sure about ELP - they were more over blown prog than psychedelic - but Hawkwind..

30 minute looped tunes - check

weird synths noises - check

scifi samples(wells poken bits..) - check

flouro back drops - check

too much acid - check


Obviously fore runners of psy trance...

:Smile3:

Have a listen to mid/late 70s Steve Hillage as well - he was using sequencers 30 years ago!
 

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Funny this thread poped up.
Recently I fished out some late 60's early 70's recs in the likes of 13th Floor Elavator, Gandalf, Spring, Christopher, Hunger, Clearlight and Country Joe and the Fish. Haven't yet thoroughly listened to all of em but I feel in good company :Wink3:

My definitions on psychedelic rock goes to 70's Hawkwind and Amon Dull 2 as shown on Yeti album. And Can of course.

Tangerine Dream and Neu is what I intend to indulge further in the future.

Any more recommendations would be valuable though.

Speak up and show your age!
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Ozric said:
Tangerine Dream and Neu is what I intend to indulge further in the future.

Any more recommendations would be valuable though.
You might like to try Can if you are determined enough!
 

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Good stuff! I'm geting all excited now!
I see from your sig, Ozric, that you are a fan of jefferson airplane. I really like a couple of their tunes but still havnt got anything by them. Any more recommendations?

keep 'em rolling!
 
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