Xenomage said:Damn right. When it comes down to it we hace more rights than animals. And we should as well.
Eco-terrorism is the single greatest threat to our economy at the moment...
badger said:.... Inaccurate and big pharma to soome degree are greater evils, but you'd still have diabetics taking pig insulin and asthmatics in an early grave if there was no modern medicine. ... ...But i live off (asthma) medicine, and I hope these people never get anything wrong with them or they'll turn into blatant hypocrites if they need to take anything!
Hab said:. . . . due to be sentenced next week for theft of that lady's corpse - comeuppance justly deserved. Discuss.
CosmoNaughty said:My total support goes out to Kerry and John who are up in court for this today, at least that fuckin' old bitch lived a full life and died of old age a privallage that hundreds of thousands of guinea pigs didn't have, reared to be tortured to death in vivisection labs. the courts will throw the book at them but it was a great victory for anyone who belives in the fight for animal liberation the farm was closed down !!!!!
dave arc-i said:im not sure i can whole heartedly support drugs being tested on animals prior to humans anymore after the recent incidents with the drug test volunteers in london where the substances had been pretested on animals without the side effects - sort of proves there is no real validity in that type of testing
They'll get them from somewhere abroad that doesn't have the strict regulations we do (the UK's are pretty much the strictest in the world), and they'll suffer because of the transport involved.jibberer said:Those people are fighting for a noble thing, the end of suffering for thousands of animals, but the ends most definetly do not justify the means. They may have closed down a farm, but the companies who use the guinea pigs will just get them from somewhere else, and all they have really achieved is to set their cause back years. If you tell someone now you believe in animal rights you will immediatly be branded a complete nutter by a good many people.
Goz said:... you just cannot replace that kind of testing with anything other than doing it on humans ...
dave arc-i said:*radical proposal alert*
test them on humans then, if they are intended for us as the end user's surely we have no *right* to inflict the tests upon the animals?
offer people convicted of the more serious crimes that entail a life sentence a chioice - a life sentence through the *normal* prison system OR volunteer for drugs testing for an easier reigeme and more privileges - wouldnt that also encompass the perception of the offender making amends to society?