Another indymedia server is seized ...

rcain

Member
whilst there is obvious sense in forcing disclosure of evidence in public-interest criminal investigations, it seems to be becoming increasingly difficult to put up a viable defence, as this example shows - even the intervention of Liberty couldnt help. most worryingly:

- accepted journalistic protection under law is compromised - this puts ALL journalists and the confidentiality of their sources at risk
- similar seiizures have been effected as the result of US warrants presented in UK courts - thanks to our 'special relationship'
- we no longer have any right to know why - the 'T-word' is invoked to shroud all such activities wth total secrecy

measures and counter-measures - i think the result will be to drive everything even further underground and elicit even less co-operation in those cases where it really matters.
 

grokit23

God mintsmak
Saw this the other day at work...

Thought it was a very sad state of affairs to see our Police going along so readily with appeals from foreign government to do something like this, especially as British legal advice has already stated that their (the police) actions weren't strictly within the law.

seems like they're stamping down more quickly on dissenting viewpoints where they feel they can get away with it :Sad:

@Biggins2012 of course they can be hosted off shore, but then it's more likely you're going to have to pay extra to get it hosted, than say a bit of free or subsidised hosting through well meaning individuals or organisations. Plus there're the issues of support/back up with foreign hosts...
 

akindo

on Genelec
Biggins: I got the answer: Russia or ex-Russia states! That's where the majority of cybercrime servers and hence website are located. Sites which are openly dealing in credic card numbers, bank accounts, etc. on forums, these servers are located there. They aint confiscated.

But I agree, this is _extremely_ worrying! I followed the last Indymedia case closely, where harddisks were confiscated. We should really make a stance and a fight on this. Why aren't more people worried?
 

Techno-Toast

Junior Members
more bristol

more worringly it comes just days before the G8 with indymedia running an imc centre on the ground in edinburgh.

the bristol cops seem a bit slow on the issues of tech and the CID guy a bit gungho - all complicated by an ex imc bristol member with a grudge who gave over a lot of inside style info and some misinfo.

collected reports at
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/06/315177.html

good article from the freelance (incs info on warrants)
http://www.londonfreelance.org/fl/0508imc.html

the bristol crew are very thankful for all the support they have recieved, it must have been quite a scary time.

a potential serious court case may follow if the cops press ahead with the incredible charge of incitement to criminal damage against one if the imc bristol folks for looking after a web server where someone else publishes some stuff (aside from the serious implications of server seizure bypassing the stage of legal moves to obtain ip numbers, irrespective of any journalistic privilage).

imc will not be intimidated, and will continue doing what they do - be that at gleneagles for the G8 summit next week or in bristol day in day out.
 

rcain

Member
Techno-Toast said:
more worringly it comes just days before the G8 with indymedia running an imc centre on the ground in edinburgh.

the bristol cops seem a bit slow on the issues of tech and the CID guy a bit gungho - all complicated by an ex imc bristol member with a grudge who gave over a lot of inside style info and some misinfo.

collected reports at
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/06/315177.html

good article from the freelance (incs info on warrants)
http://www.londonfreelance.org/fl/0508imc.html

the bristol crew are very thankful for all the support they have recieved, it must have been quite a scary time.

a potential serious court case may follow if the cops press ahead with the incredible charge of incitement to criminal damage against one if the imc bristol folks for looking after a web server where someone else publishes some stuff (aside from the serious implications of server seizure bypassing the stage of legal moves to obtain ip numbers, irrespective of any journalistic privilage).

imc will not be intimidated, and will continue doing what they do - be that at gleneagles for the G8 summit next week or in bristol day in day out.

technotoast - are im into strong encryption? although i dont think the law operates any differently, it is a lot easier to loose a key-sig than a hard disk.
 

rcain

Member
spot on...take a while for legislators to catch up with the fact that theyre fighting a loosing battle.....think we ought to preserve the www as a peoples medium for as long as we can ....
 
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