BASS and PITCH changing sounds

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Hi Guys,

I´m working with PsyTrance production, and I have released my first song 2 weeks ago (check www.eletronz.com )...

But my songs lacks of something: very good bass sounding, fat and not muddy - Check some examples below, and an kind of sound (wich I like very much) with pitch changing. I should use an GLIDE function? - check example too...

I want some tips on how to do these sounds... Try to be specific about what should I use (wich VSTs? Wich synths? Samples? Etc...)

I´m no experencied synth program so I just change some patches trying to get what I want..

I´m working with Nord Lead 3, but no bass patch give me that SUB6 bass sound...

If you have any patch for Nord Lead 3, or any patch for any VST that can help me, share with us in this forum...

Then here it goes:

1) Very good fat bass (SUB6 - 7th Son):
http://www.eletronz.com/sounds/sub6-7th_son.mp3 (65k)

2) Very good fat and FAST bass (CPU - Positronic):
http://www.eletronz.com/sounds/cpu_positronic.mp3 (51k)

3) Very good fat bass with pitch change (Global Djs - What a Feeling):
http://www.eletronz.com/sounds/global_djs-what_a_feeling.mp3 (225k)

4) Very nice pitch changing synth effect (Freq - Awaken):
http://www.eletronz.com/sounds/freq-awaken.mp3 (27k)

I´ve used TAU MK2 for my bass, but it isn´t good yet...Maybe I didn´t put "THE RIGHT" effect? I´ll try Albino and Junglist too to see what I will get....

I don´t want to COPY other people sounds, but I want to get an especific sound with are very close to these basses and pitch changing sounds...
 
Have you tried resampling the bass from the tau into your sampler (i use the exs) and then played around with velocities? ive found the the velocity is no where near as responsive straight out of the synth as to coming out of the sampler
Also, If you use the sound straight out of the tau firstly the oscilator is alway moving so the sound will be inconsistent and different every time it plays. Having exactly the same sound coming out of the sampler severy time a bass note is played makes for a much more solid bass line.
Hope that helps...

:)
 
I´ll try to sample the bass.

I always thought that the sound will be the same, but if there´s any difference i should try.. thanks..
 
luizmenezesjunior said:
I don´t want to COPY other people sounds, but I want to get an especific sound with are very close to these basses and pitch changing sounds...
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i'll have a listen to those samples and see what i can suggest
 
chris H said:
Have you tried resampling the bass from the tau into your sampler (i use the exs) and then played around with velocities? ive found the the velocity is no where near as responsive straight out of the synth as to coming out of the sampler
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The Tau's a 303-alike, so it'll only have 2 velocities, "Normal" and "Accent". Also it'll have an abnormally long release on the volume envelope, meaning at high BPM settings with 16th notes the sounds will overlap and get 'muddy' unless you either shorten the note or sample the synth. Something like a V-Station, a Triangle or a Pentagon are better for full-on basses straight out of the synth, as they provide you with much more precise control over the velocity response and amp envelope. V-Station and Pentagon also allow you to specify the start phase of the oscillator for that perfect punchy click each time.

Having said that, I reckon the Tau (Mk 1 and 2) and Tau Pro are fantastically phat bass synths - I use them in a lot of my more proggy or breaksy attempts. :D

Luiz - that Sub6 bass sounds like a basic single-oscillator saw wave with a bit of filter envelope tweaking. You'd be surprised how good basic waves sound once you've got stuff on top of them. Keeping the number of oscillators down also means that the waveform sounds clearer.

J.
 
Thanks, I´ve got a good bass with Tau Pro, but the release was killing me. I have to put 1/64 tripplet notes to not overlap notes..

I will check other synths too, but I've tryed some bass samples, from real bass guitars, and loaded them with Kontakt... the results are very good, but I´m not finished yet...
 
yep thats the size that I saw Junya and legohead writing with 1 / 64 tau original
 
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