CD Production Question

Speakafreaka Jan 15, 2005

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    I'm just wondering, how many CD's on average are produced when a label releases a compilation?

    Not some TIP uber Psy label, but maybe from say Stone Age records through to Etnica.Net

    I have absolutely no idea. Finding out how much it costs to release a Psy record could be useful...
     
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    About a 1000-1500 usually as a first run, and then more if there is demand :Wink3:
     
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    thanks :Grin:

    Just doing some costing at the moment. Trying to see if running a label is viable or not. I am looking for ways to become more... 'active' in the scheme of things and that seems like a good one if I can make the books balance :Smile3:
     
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    Get in there!! :bananase:
     
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    thanks for the link Jason :Smile3:

    I really need to consider them also

    Although, I'm still trying to figure out just what they do exactly. Their site isn't conducive to getting a better understanding of their role in all this, as it would appear they are very fond of Lawyer Bollock Brain Talk.

    From what I can gather, I have to apply for a license to release CD's and inform them when I release a CD what is on the CD, who wrote it and all that gubbins.

    Or (fairly sure here) have I got that wrong?

    If anyone could explain the basics of mcps in english I'd be grateful :Grin:
     
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    mcps stands for mechanical copyright protection society. mechanical copyright covers everything to do with actual recordings. the way i understand it (i may be wrong) is the mcps monitor all situations where mechanical rights are involved ie. royalties from record sales, royalties from radio play, working out how to distribute night club lisence fees etc.
     
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    so in effect, if i were to license a track from somebody then I would pay mcps the royalties, who in turn would pay the artist? Unless of course it was me.

    In otherwords, I have to use mcps? not a problem, but it really does make more sense to be clear here :Wink3:
     
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    Bloody hell. The more I read the more confuzzled I get! What is wrong with these people! All these sites are ridiculously confusing and anal. Why can they not have a section along the lines of do this, do this, do this. It will cost you this much. Deliberately obfusicated! :mad: :mad: :mad:

    Okay, i am basically at the point where I'm thinking just starting out that I would need to pay MCPS in advance royalties to artists concerned on any CD's I then produce.

    I need a music lawyer to draw up contract licency thingamijigs and a solicitor too.

    I need a mastering house and a CD press (this bit I've taken care of :Smile3: )

    And a shit lot of gold!
     
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    Back in the olden days our record company was a member of PRS/MCPS and I think you basically pay an annual fee to become a member.

    In return they will collect your mechanical and performance royalties and pay you every year, minus costs and fees. This made us precisely F.A. since our stuff was never much on radio or TV. I think we got some payments from a piece of music used on a C4 trailer or somesuch.

    Membership is not compulsory but if your stuff takes off it would probably be worthwhile to get in with them as they do the legwork.

    It was years ago, so I'm probably not spot on, but that was about the size of it :Smile3:
     
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    ta there AC :Grin:

    I have absolutely no idea, but I'm seeing a bank man about opening an account tomorrow. It'll take me a while to get enough money for a release together, so I've got plenty of time to suss it all out eh?

    Mundunugu Records lives! (don't ask)
     
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    A label pays a license fee to MCPS to gain permission to press the recordings, based on the length of the CD and its intended use. The label must also notify MCPS of exactly which recordings are being included. Likewise, the artist must notify MCPS of recordings which are slated for release in order for the appropriate royalties to be paid. As I understand it a commercial pressing plant is legally bound to refuse to manufacture a CD if the client has no license (or exemption, if the label is also the artist).

    In this way the copyright holder (eg. the artist, unpublished) is helped to recieve royalties due for the use of their recordings on any commercially-manufactured audio product.

    DAMN I should get some notification forms and fill them in.
     
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    not quite, any payment agreed between label and artist is done directly, the mcps is just there to collect royalties from others eg record shops, club owners, radio stations etc
     
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    So IT is compulsory? Well I never. Glad I always stayed away from the business stuff :Smile3: and dedicated myself to the 'getting drunk and talking bollocks' side of the job :Smile3:
     
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    yeah - it looks like they are demanding payment for any CD's I prdouce up front.

    Not a problem, and in fact good as I have no experience in the matters of paying people, and don't wish to fuck it up!

    Unless you are a huge, well established label, the licence they grant you, means that all royalties due from the label are payed in advance, so If I produce 1500 CD's, I will pay the royalties due on 1500 CD's before I sell them.

    This protects everyone as far as I can tell.

    The artist is sure to get their money.
    The label is sure not to get sued, (and really, I cannot afford to get sued)

    and everyone walks away a happier, more rounded person.

    At least, I hope that is how it works :trippn:
     
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