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Taika-Kim

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Yeah, I checked out the Lutec site and of course it seems promising.

It's just that during the course of years there have been numerous people advertising their free energy machines, and as amazing as it may seem, they never provided anything after getting their money.
Remember that I'm not saying anything against these fellows, I SINCERELY HOPE this time this is for real and all the world's energy problems are solved, but somehow I'm a bit sceptical.

A very good page about the issue of frauds in this field:
http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/menu/scams/scam_watch.htm
Also check the main page:
http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/menu/main.htm
for interesting links to free energy machines.

Remeber: a free energy machine is something that, after the startup, provides energy with minimal or nonexistent input by the user... Like solar, wind or tidal power. Not some mystery box that creates energy out of nothing! (remember that ALL energy on earth that we use except nuclear enrgy comes originally from the sun... fossil fuels, wind, everyhting)

Such things as practically infinite amounts of energy appearing from nowhere just doesn't exist! The speak about vast conspiracies hiding this technology from ordinary people is just like any one of those hare-brained conspiracy theory that are of course very entertaining but luckily have no connection to reality.
 

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Taika-Kim said:
Such things as practically infinite amounts of energy appearing from nowhere just doesn't exist!

Now I could be wrong, but doesn't the current big bang theory require rather a lot of matter/energy to just pop into existence???

Mind you it's just a theory init!

PHLUR :sun:
 

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Yes, that's true, but aren't the laws of physics supposed to have not existed at the time of the big bang?

I'm just saying that if these things really worked, it would be in the use already, nothing this big would stay in this kind of shady near-existing state for decades.

Of course I hope I'm wrong. I'd like to see a world freed of energy conserns.
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Or then not. I can't imagine what that would do to the environment with the current mentality we have towards consumerism :P
 

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FlameBoy said:
The Friends of the Earth website has a very good section which has a league table" which compares the various green energy tarrifs being offered, both in terms of how much they cost and how green they are:
http://www.foe.co.uk/campaigns/climate/press_for_change/choose_green_energy/#league_table

Best one currently looks like the "Ecotricity Old Energy Tarrif":
http://www.ecotricity.co.uk/switch/oldenergytariff.html

Looks like you beat me to it on this one FlameBoy! They certainly look like the best option so far for green electricity.

www.ukenergy.co.uk said:
For domestic customers Ecotricity guarantees to match the price of your local regional supplier.
Ecotricity are investing your money in building more wind turbines, and is also creating new woodland by planting a native broadleaf tree for every new customer that switches their home to Ecotricity.
Phone : 08000 326 100

Sounds good. Few of the others make any mention of reinvestment of profit in environmentally friendly technologies and those that do, do so sparingly (<=5%) whereas Ecotricity re-invests 39% in green power. :Grin:
 

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psyfi said:
The hydrogen cars aren’t like those pissy electric cars that hum along like a milk float there quit fast and powerful and the technology has been around for sometime now.

NO SHIT. are they hard to build?
 

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percy said:
The answer is simple we need a device that can harness the energy given off by the dancers.

Everyone dances on trampolines on dynamos! It could power a small country (or at least the sound system!)
 

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LIGHTNING?

i wonder! can you get energy from lightning storms? that would kick ass. alot of power i imagine. does anyone know anything about this?
 
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Not wishing to dampen spirits, an article in this month's Engineering Technology Mag:

Why the planet needs nuclear energy
Earth is hotting up faster than ever before. Here the former Bishop of Birmingham and a committed environmentalist explains why global warming has changed his mind about the need for nuclear power.

This guy was once a trustee of FoE for 20 years. Haven't evaluated his arguments, but another 'nice nukes' article in the same issue makes me think this has the hallmarks of a BNFL 'course we are trustworthy campaign.'

Makes very scary reading :Sad:

What's scarier is that the IIE, whose members this is targeted at, is due to merge with the IEE (Institute of Electrical Engineers) this year. The IEE provide expert witnesses to various Commons Select Committees.

We need a :wizard1:
 

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Post subject: LIGHTNING?

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i wonder! can you get energy from lightning storms? that would kick ass. alot of power i imagine. does anyone know anything about this?
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Mmmm, Very large amount of Voltage, would be easy to collect it ie a high lightning conductor as it takes the shortest path to earth. Its often instantaneos, sending large transients like 50KV through the grid system. The only problem is banking electricity in large amounts. Elecricity is the movement of free electrons you cant bank too much as it requires exitation of some sort.

I teach electrics, i am going to bring renewable energy into my sylabus. I am really for it there as there will be some major breakthroughs in the next few years. Nice thread, love to meet you guys at a party hang out, have fun

Mickey, electrician for psy trance generation
 
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Hmm, HV filters effectively store electrical energy using monsta capacitors and chokes - say for example when you generate HV and put it back into the grid.

From memory, tha max volts from a lightning strike is around 250kv, so if you built a volt regulator that could handle that, in theory, you could provide circuits to drop the volts small enough to go into batteries.

Must be some research on this somewhere. :sun:

One thing I do know - if you are ever in a lightning storm and can feel hair on your body standing up, drop and roll into a ball, cos you is about to be it!!

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Nice Loz,

Could be somthing in it although not too many lightning storms....Nice all the same.

There seems to be alot of talk about generation for rigs ive had some thoughts. There are some things available called UPS uninterupted power supplies, computer instalations, hospitals etc use them as there are going to be more power cuts happening. They are a bank of batteries wired in series parallel to provide mains voltage.

Generating AC VA is easy, any motor turned will produce electricity it is what you have to turn it ie an engine turns a motor.

I am going snowboarding tomorrow in Austria, the pistey beastie machines run on an alpine mix of vegie oil and kerosene in that resort i am told, they are very powerful engines as they have to climb massive inclines and push lots of snow.....More than enough power to turn any motor although not a 25 KV alternator at a grid power station but that is exessive for most festies.

Ill do some research while shredding the motherfucking mountain

Yes i think i will :ph34r:
 

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I went to this lecture at the Darwin centre in the London Natural History Museum yesterday. They are apparently developing, and have developed, settlements where they are achieving almost 0% waste. I know that the one is called Bed-Zed, and the one that is being planned presently is called Z-squared. Apparently they're having a hard time getting these into established boroughs, cos people don't like the aesthetic effect of too much glass (?!!!). But I say Good Luck to them, and I hope that it becomes the way forward.
 

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Fuel cells aren't a power source - they're a battery. You have to use electricity to split the water into hydrogen and oxygen, so how green they are depends on where you got the electricity from in the first place.

Fuel cells are good because they're light, but not because they're all that good at giving you back most of the energy you put in - you can get about 35% of the electricity converted back from a fuel cell compared to about 80% from a big lead acid battery. They sound like the sort of thing that would be perfect for levelling out the intermittent renewable sources we have like wind, but - there - they're not as good as using the spare power to pump water up a hill!

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Z Horse said:
hello folks,
ever considered changing where you buy your energy from to a cleaner more sustainable source ?all it takes is a phone call.
0845 456 1640 or www.unit-e.co.uk
They supply the grid with 100% clean, renewable electricity generated by the earth's natural resources of wind, water and sun.

i have been told its about £3 more than conventional dirty fossil fuel per month habit.worth sacrificing a pint and a packet of skins a month i reckon.

apparently around 30% of the electricity produced is used by domestic households.
its a step in the right direction me thinks.the more the merry er :Grin:
if ya do it i'll love you more than i already do.an i might even give ya a big kiss :bananada:
:bananada: :bananada:

Friends of the Earth have published a guide to the various "Green Energy Tarriffs" here: http://www.foe.co.uk/campaigns/climate/press_for_change/choose_green_energy/#league_table, seems some are greener than others. The "Ecotricity Old Energy Tariff" looks like one of the best to go for from green point of view, and isn't too expensive either

hope this helps

FlameBoy
 

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Hmmm... I'm trying hard to see in what way the Lutec generator is unlike the Adams Pulse Motor, which had similar claims made about it. Lutec say that they are dissimilar.
Now I could be wrong, but doesn't the current big bang theory require rather a lot of matter/energy to just pop into existence???
The total amount of energy in the universe is exactly nil. >Click Me, you Doubting Thomas!<
 

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Has anyone seen the RinkyDink? I went to a winter solstice party one year in a hanger in Bath and they were using the RinkyDink to power the rig-what a fanstic idea! The more you peddled, the louder it got. I'm sure you'd be able to attch another couple of bikes to it and it shouldn't be that difficult to get 6 people to pedal for power. No-one cycling=no music!



We're moving to Bratton tomoorow and have already signed up to ecotricity-yay!!
 

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I was on ecotricity for about a year but when i moved house in the spring i decided to change to Swalec's Power2 because ecotricity profess to only match up to 30% of your useage and Power2 say they match 100%

having read some of the literature leading off the links on some of your posts however, and especially having found a very interesting article in the ecologist http://www.ecotricity.co.uk/acrobat/JeremySmith_articleJune05.pdf i have decided to move back to ecotricity pretty damn smartish and am quite annoyed at myself for listening to such wanky captialist marketing bullshit in the first place :ifrown:
 

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Can't we just put all these death row criminals in giant hamster wheels and feed them police siezed cocaine. two birds-one stone. need i say more.
 
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