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    ERGOTSYNTHESISPROJECT Junior Members

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    I currrently run Logic 5.5 on my Pc, I am going to hold my breathe, :o take the leap and get a new mac (laptop) but am worried that I will not have the same amount of options in terms of vst/audio units.

    Has anyone seen or used a cracked copy of Logic pro ???
    I went to an audio exebition in Wembley a while back and was chating to the guys from Emagic who insisted that there were no cracks yet.

    If any one here is running logic pro, how readily available are cracked audio units? Being a pc user I am blessed with a vast range of craked vst.




    JOhn
     
  2. JPsychodelicacy

    JPsychodelicacy Studio Elf

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    You'll have *real* trouble getting hold of hooky software for a Macintosh - Regulars on Media forum know my opinion of Macs, and know that I'd recommend to stay well clear (I'm sorry - they're just not worth the money Apple charge (Over 2 grand for a reasonably specced machine (the minimum for production IMO)? F*** ***!), plus the old quality control argument appears to be *long* out the window).

    The comparitive dearth of cracked Mac software has a lot to do with the fact that anyone who can afford a Mac is usually loaded enough to buy the software too.

    J.
     
  3. ERGOTSYNTHESISPROJECT

    ERGOTSYNTHESISPROJECT Junior Members

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    I have no quarms with mac. Both systems have there benefits. I am getting a mac so I can carry on using Logic , just wannted to know if theres an wooky versions (pro)going around
     
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    Just interested (Ott'll probably ask the same question), but what is it about Logic 6 that you just *have* to have?

    Fair enough, but I have to say I see few benefits on the Mac from a price/performance perspective - you may want to click the links on the above post to read more.

    Anyway, it's probably obvious by now that I'm too biased to get an objective opinion from, but I fear that outside of the web design community, Mac users will not take kindly to requests for cracked software. This is just my experience, mind...

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    I dont have to have it but I am getting spanking new system and its just natural to want to give it a spanking new sequencer, also the freeze function is needed for laptop music making....


    damn
    :? :mad: cant access the link. I am at work and the IT security setting block some links out , what was it leading to?

    What sequencer do you use
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  6. JPsychodelicacy

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    One was a link to the Apple Store UK, where a 1.5GHz G4 Powerbook with 1GB of RAM and a 80GB 5,700rpm HDD clocked in at nearly £2,200 (Remember that the G4 in terms of performance per GHz is roughly in line with the P4 rather than the P-M/Centrino or AthlonXP), then bear in mind that even an expensive branded machine like a Sony Vaio with a faster processor (1.7GHz P-M, roughly equivalent to around 2.8-3GHz P4) and equivalent other spec still comes in at £300 cheaper.

    The second was a link to an article discussing where Apple's quality control (which was their hallmark up until the late '90s) had gone south over the last few years - Google 'apple quality control' to get a rough idea of what I'm talking about, there's no shortage of articles.

    I use Logic 5.5 and SX2 (Still in the learning stages of both, really). I find them to be both wonderful and infuriating in equal measure. Stability-wise I find SX2 has a slight edge at the moment, but that may depend on the quality of the dongle hack. I prefer Logic's customisability, but at the end of the day I'm undecided - they're both examples of German software at the end of the day. :Wink3:


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  7. eMpTy-1

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    JP let it go man, the mac vs PC thread is over. :Wink3:

    No Logic hasn't been cracked. :no:

    I love the change but keep your PC too.

    You will get Logic 5.5.1 or whatever it is on the Pro disk also, you can run that on your PC and Pro on the mac, you can then midi link the comps, feed the audio into the mac for recording. So now you can run all those PC only soft synths and apps like Wavelab in your studio along side the mac only stuff.

    Project Manager is a great feature that is new to LA 6 and when LA 7 comes out later this year, maybe to be announced at the end of this month, there will be some great new synths and features. :cool:

    You may want to look into getting a second hand mac with apple care if cash is tight. Is it really necessary for you to get a laptop? ->G5

    I think you will find that the professional "high quality" plugins are available on both platforms and some if not all can and/or have most likley been cracked.

    From my experience I think a two computer set up is the way to go, the best and worst of both worlds. :Smile3:
     
  8. twistedjc

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    I can't imagine why they would say that... :P

    In my opinion the major problem with macs comes when something goes wrong... nobody knows how to fix them (unlike pcs) and the support line rates are daylight robbery. Somthing like £40 for the call and then £6 a minute after that. There is no competition so they have you bent over a barrel whilst they roger you long distance from California...

    No thank you... Incidentally - why is the Freeze function essential for laptop production?
     
  9. JPsychodelicacy

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    AppleCare *is* daylight robbery though...

    Don't forget I had to support my ex-gf's Macintosh habit for three years! :P

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    True but do the same search replacing Apple with Dell, Sony or Asus and you will see the same stuff. X's quality control sucks!! Granted there are more hits for apple but many of them did look like repeats and besides that doing a Google search isn't very scientific. Not that I am arguing with you ::Wink3:: too much as you do have a point but all bleeding edge technology bleeds at some point.

    I have been wondering about the apple care thing. It isn't going to be too long before my one year warrantee is up on my laptop and eventually the 23" monitor I got, I can still get the apple care service before the warrantee expires and was thinking of doing so. I always thought those after market service agreements were just another way to squeeze a few more bucks out of the sale and have never bothered getting one but a few friends have cautioned me to get one for my large ticket items. If my laptop does crap out it will be replaced with a newer model methinks especially if it happens in two years time.

    I don't think it is as simple as that. When my motherboard blew in my PC nobody knew how to fix it, in fact it was going to take three weeks just to get the board to Asus let alone get a fixed/refurbished/new one back, so, I brought a new one to avoid the wait and now have two motherboards. Where as my friends HD went out on his 12" Powerbook it took a week to have it sent to Cali, get fixed and sent back.

    On another note...

    Did any of you guys see Steve Jobs keynote address at WWDC (check @ www.apple.com)? He showed off the new 20, 23 and 30" monitors which look sweet and showed a quick preview of OSX Tiger, which looks super cool and is way ahead of the competition, it is got stuff that Longhorn will have in it in 2006-7. Great choice of name for Microsoft, Longhorn. What would you rather be a large agile predator or a domesticated ruminating herbivore that gets ground into hamburger?
     
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    I think Gates is going for the 'extended penis' interpretation.
     
  12. JPsychodelicacy

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    Hrm - If I'm honest there are some things that I'd rather weren't part of the central OS - I think an OS should just manage the hardware-software interface and allow the user to choose the apps that suit him/her best (which is why I'm a Linux geek - I only use 'doze for production 'cos I can't run Cubase/Logic on Linux and I think Apple's hardware costs stink, and find both Chrome and Quartz MacOS completely counter-intuitive). I don't use IE, WMP or any of the default utils as a rule, so such things don't bother me.

    Apple *will* find a way of charging you if they can - remember they wanted to force iPod owners to buy a new one when the battery crapped out - until there was a grassroots consumer campaign bringing that tactic to light and forcing a change of policy.

    Steve Jobs is a self-serving c*** who'd make Bill Gates look like a pussycat if Jobs was in Gates' position.

    At the end of the day, Apple charge more moolah for inferior hardware, but with more yuppie cachet - it's your call.

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    Nice one Colin :Grin:


    Right, but you are a self confesed geek and scored admirably in the Are You a Geek? quiz. For the rest of us, well me at least am completly elated with OSX since Panther and even thought core image and core video weren't something I was thinking about since I got my core audio they do look tantalizing. That combined with the meta searching capabilities just look great and will be even better when it gets released in '05.

    I don't remember that but I find it reasonable to expect any company would not want to recall a product. It isn't easy becoming a Fortune 500 company.

    That is a bit harsh isn't it? On what grounds do you make these hypothetical claims?

    Proove it, here is my offer http://forgetcomputers.com/~jdroz/ this person has put in over 1000 hours researching this and has read over 2000 reports on this topic.
     
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    *Sigh* - his purpose going in was to prove that 'Macs are better than PCs for everyone'. You don't think that that might skew his results just a *tiny* bit?

    More later... I thought we'd done this to death. I'd find stuff now, but unfortunately have a job to get done. :Sad:

    One thing to bear in mind in the interim is that Apple support in Europe doesn't have anything like the resources that Apple Cupertino (US/CA) have.

    Oh - and the iPod thing... they didn't need to recall them, they just needed to provide replacement batteries, which they refused to do at first, instead wanting to charge £200-300 for a new iPod.

    Kinda blows a hole in the 'caring, sharing corporation' image that they've tried to foster over the years.

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    You don't have to have Logic 6, but the freeze function and off line bounce helps a lot if you rely on using soft synths/plugs heavily.
    Anyway the most important issue for me, Midi timming, is just as shit on both platforms, so not worth going Mac...for now.

    Peace.
     
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    Yes it is becoming more obvious...
     
  17. JPsychodelicacy

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    Lol - it must be said however that the flipside is also largely true... you're as pro-Macintosh as I am anti-. :Wink3: :P

    One major caveat is that I'm speaking from my personal experience, and that is that just about every Mac that's come into my life has caused me a fair amount of hassle one way or the other. (I'll formulate a list later, if you like :Wink3: )

    On a technical level, remember that in Apple's much-vaunted G5 speed tests, they turned off compiler optimisation on the PCs and switched it on for the G5 test - basically cheating to get the figures they wanted - and even then they had to massage the figures. That's just plain dishonest.

    Don't forget that Steve Jobs did some consulting work for Microsoft just prior to his re-installation at the head of Apple, and judging from Apple's behaviour since, he was quite enamoured of MS's business practices (among the most odious of any corporation). I always gave them (Apple) fair shakes until recently, but Apple's acquisition of Emagic and subsequent 'fuck you' to the Logic PC user base was just the lowest of the low and I refuse to say anything positive about them until they prove that they're not just another asshole US corporate. If Jobs had his way, computing would still be the preserve of the wealthy. Say what you like about MS, and I'd likely agree, but commodity PC hardware has been the best thing to ever happen to computing over the last couple of decades.

    J.
     
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    Gates would have it that in a few years time the hardware will be virtually "free" and it'll all be a case of paying for software.

    Hmmm.

    Interestingley (well, to me at least), I've just started getting involved with Linux in the day job (using it in an embedded system). My opinion on that way forward is definitely changing, but not in ways I expected...
     
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