DADSR Envelope

eMpTy-1 May 21, 2004

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    Just wondering what the first D in DADSR does, I know it stands for delay but I can't figure what purpose it is for other than delaying the triggering of the note and that can be done in other ways, right? or does it have something to do with the black arts ov nano time correction?

    Found it on the new MODE synth (worth checking out mac users) from cycling74.com and couldn't work out what it is used for.
     
  2. Ott^

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    It just delays the onset of the envelope shape. Just like you suspected.

    The "black arts ov nano time correction" can be summed up in 2 words.

    "Bull" and "shit".

    :Grin:
     
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    I'm not familiar with this synth, but generally, you can use this for such things as vibrato delay... a common occurance amongst string players after sliding to a note, as they will centralise on the note they have gone to before they start the vibrato.

    So ideally set the envelope to affet the LFO Pitch modulation amount

    Filter sweep delays - Good in dubby chord stuff.

    It is really useful for creating gradually evolving pad sounds.

    JM. Blanchet (Jaia) makes extensive use of them in his presets for the Moog Modular V synth.
     
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    Cheers Freeka but it is an amp envelope not a lfo envelope which is why I thought it strange. I guess it is so one can modulate the delay untill the attack phase of the envelope or just experiement quicker than moving the midi notes by "unreal" time divisions everytime.
     
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    If it's a two-oscillator synth, it'll be useful for delaying the attack of the second oscillator's amp envelope, to give some shifting waveform effects. Try this:

    Oscillator 1:
    5 second attack, decay and release times. Set the delay and sustain times to zero.
    Oscillator 2:
    5 second delay, attack and release times. Set the sustain to max (decay doesn't matter).

    Set the two oscillators to completely different waveforms (eg Osc 1: Pulse wave with lots of PWM, Osc 2: sine), open all filters full... you should have quite an interesting wave-sequence style sound.
     
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    Thanks Colin, sounds like a cool little tip, however, the MODE synth that I saw this style envelope on is a drum synth, see pic. (Three synths in one)

    Looks like I am going to have to fuck the reading manual.

    Amp Envelope: A DADSR envelope that controls the amplitude of the sample
    playback voice's output. Each "time" step (A and R) ranges from
    0-1500 milliseconds.

    Values: 0-1500 ms per stage

    Programming Hint: The initial "delay" setting of the envelope delays the entire note playback by the sampling engine. This is useful for making "sequences" of offset notes, as seen in the presets with a seq: prefix.


    Oh well that was a lot less exciting than I thought it would be.
     
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    'scuse me fellas but ah just stumbled in here by mistake and went all gooey at the language :Wink3:
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    Sorry Miche - you'll never pass for a geek with skin tone like that.

    :cool:
     
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    True, but she can make as many passes at us geeks as she likes - even if it's only playing... :wub:

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    "Joe's got a stiffy - Joe's got a stiffy!"
     
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    Why you little.... :mad:

    :P

    Besides, I was at work when I wrote that - the overall drabness of office work precludes me from arousal while there (no matter how fit colleagues or clients may be).

    In my mind, Michele joins the ranks of the unattainable musical beauties I got all gooey over since my teenage years (cf. Miki Berenyi, Emma Anderson and *don't hit me!* Andrea Corr).

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