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Anyone know the current status of this re. shrooms? If it goes through, when is it likely to become law ?
 

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This is not quite true.

It has recieved royal assent on 7th of April, but must be written into law.

This is currently being done.

There must also be a official cut off date for traders who are legitimatley retailing a legal product. They simply cannot pass a law with immediate effect, as this crimminalizes legitimate traders without notice.

It is anticipated that the date of commencement will be in July, though the home office will be announcing this through its website and national press, hopefully within a week.

You can find out more about this and follow the progress of the bill here: http://www.graeme-farrer.net/tmg-ltd/magick_forum/view_forum.php?id=45

The goverments action has been deemed by mp's, lords, and legal advisors as illeagal and against eu law and human rights. Traders in the uk are currently seeking a judicial review, the Entheongen Defence Fund has been created to undertake this action. Check out: http://www.graeme-farrer.net/tmg-ltd/magick_forum/view_topic.php?id=630&forum_id=45
 

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There is now a campaign to put a test case through the courts relating to magic mushrooms. It has been found that Clause 21 of the new drugs bill is illegal. These mushrooms are classified in eu law as an eu tradable vegtable. This came about as the result of a Dutch Government risk (CAM) asessment finding no risk to public health or social issues.

Basically the government have rushed it through and it has now been found to contravien EU law. Human rights law and a UN law

They are expecting to have clause 21 removed within 6 months
 

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are you sure?

hey, just wondering where you heard that. sounds excellent.
 

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Veriix said:
There is now a campaign to put a test case through the courts relating to magic mushrooms. It has been found that Clause 21 of the new drugs bill is illegal. These mushrooms are classified in eu law as an eu tradable vegtable. This came about as the result of a Dutch Government risk (CAM) asessment finding no risk to public health or social issues.

Basically the government have rushed it through and it has now been found to contravien EU law. Human rights law and a UN law

They are expecting to have clause 21 removed within 6 months


thank f**k for that !
 

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Lets hope thats correct. This is insane, i really cant get over it, and i dont even take any mushrooms. The current system with shrooms really hasnt caused much harm, and making them class A will just cause more pointless reason for arrests, prosecutions, and prison sentences, all using more taxpayers money.
 

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Read an article in the Kent on Sunday paper about one of the Farmers Unions wanting the bill changed as at present a Farmer could be prosecuted for possession of Class A drugs if Liberty Caps grew on his land (even without his knowledge)...
 

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From what I've read in seemingly drug-obsessed New Scientist, there is more and more evidence that drugs laws in general should be relaxed - though I don't think it could happen for a long time, because people's attitudes would have to change to let a goverment in who'd do that.

As for the mushrooms thing, it seems a stupid idea to criminalise it more - it's just gonna push people towards the other type, and make it more dangerous in general - I woudldn't trust myself to go pick them from the wild and distinguish between them and nasties..
 

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The last 2 times I've been picking there has been a police presence
when I've gone back to my car! the last time I am convinced they
came to have a word with me - they pulled up and stared directly at
me for a few minutes - fortunately I had finished picking and was playing
with mine and some friends kids a distance away - I am certain that fact alone
dissuaded them from pursuing their original intention - I picked within sight of a
farm house and I'm sure they tipped the rozzers... this was before the bill came thru etc.
I am worried - magic mushrooms have been a part of life for countless generations
I seem to remember a monks stash being found in the shetland isles or somewhere
dating back a thousand years (or summat similar) tending to indicate a gallic or celtic
tradition pre-cursing christianity along the lines of hypothesised nordic use and
tradition... I will carry on picking - but to be honest I don't fancy getting caught..
 

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i was in camden yesterday and purchased some shrooms, the guy told me that he has been told to stop selling them this week. Im not sure how true this is but he seemed quite deperate to get rid of them......e.g 200g's thai for £25
 

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for stopping another part of our lives from
turning into a commodity.

sorry but I disagree, there is no 'special person' that should have access to Psycadelic mushrooms, they should be available to all, but what there should be is more education about what is going on when a person is on a trip.

Over use of mushrooms is a bad thing, and should be understood by people wanting to take them. But it is not the place of anyone to say that certain people should not be allowed them.

Free Access and Education should be the policy of the government, not criminalisation and shame.
 

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funny story (not sure if it's true but what the hey)

in the late 70's a bunch of hippies were wandering around hyde park, or some such park in london, picking mushrooms. upon attempting to exit the park they were arrested and charged with stealing the queens property.

if this law goes through, and mushies become a class A, technically, due to the mass amounts of gardening e.t.c that's done on Hyde Park, the Queen is facilitating, deliberately, the growth of Mushrooms, as is laiable for arrest. (Obviously I know this wouldn't happen blah blah blah)

Hehe, the Queen as bad as a crack dealer :lol:

I don't know the ins and outs of this story, or if it's totally true, it's just something my loocal mushroom man told me the other day that I thought was quite funny:Smile3:
 

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mrfelix said:
if this law goes through, and mushies become a class A, technically, due to the mass amounts of gardening e.t.c that's done on Hyde Park, the Queen is facilitating, deliberately, the growth of Mushrooms, as is laiable for arrest. (Obviously I know this wouldn't happen blah blah blah)
Don't kid yourself, brother - the law will go through very soon and, no, there's nothing we can do about it at the moment. Even my friendly Tory MP (hah!) told me that we'd have to "agree to disagree" about psychedelics.

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The Home Office has categorically stated that it would not pursue prosecutions for accidental mushrooms growing on one's land, what it does say is that the "cultivation" of magic mushroom will be illegal.
With regard to the Queen growing Class As - it's an interesting point you bring up. The whole point of the "fresh mushrooms" loophole was to prevent criminalising innocent people who accidently picked nice looking Liberty Caps or old grannies with a bunch of 'shrooms growing in the cowpats in their garden. Seems that just the selling of fresh shrooms and growkits (though not spores!) has been outlawed.
 

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accidental mushrooms

yodhe said:
The Home Office has categorically stated that it would not pursue prosecutions for accidental mushrooms growing on
one's land, what it does say is that the "cultivation" of magic mushroom will be illegal.
Personally I would prefer to see a rationale debate on the entheogenic and cultural use of mushrooms, rather than what
seems "doomed to failure" tactics of the "money-men".... This bollocks about it violating European laws on commerce and
trade is going to get nowhere (though some kudos for trying), except to make some lawyers even richer.

'accidental mushrooms' is obviously the way forward then.

i advocate a massive re-mushroom-asion of the countryside. its obviously an endangered species.

does anyone know of any uk (accidental-) mass-planting campaigns? (none successful evidently).
 

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You can plant wood chips that have been colonised with mycelium in the garden, would need to make up really big batches and go around the country planting under shadey trees.

There was some good news on the Magic Mushroom Forum recently - the Government has its back up against the wall over Clause 21. The EDF solicitor's and the dutch lawyers have received a reply from the Home Office basically stating that Clause 21 will not be implemented at the moment because they have been forced now to carry out further investigative reports that they failed to initially.

We will keep you updated as they develop.

:partysmi: :partysmi: :partysmi:
For mor info check out http://www.entheogendefencefund.org.uk/
and http://www.magicmushroomforum.co.uk/
 

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Any chance you could fill in us lazy types with a run-down of clause 21 ?
 
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