Sparkle-ma said:I *love* George Galloway. He always has the courage to speak out. He's scary though. Wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of him...:blink:
crikey said:So you would agree that the insurgents in Iraq should be considered Martyrs fighting for a just cause?
dave arc-i said:having read the report and it is quite clear
george galloway has slated george bush and tony blair for an illegal invasion of iraq and has suggested that the iraqi's are fighting a foreign invader - cant see any problem there
he has also slated suicide bombers be it in the middle east or in london - nothing wrong there then
he has also been silly enough to suggest that bothe war on terror and the terrorists tactics/strategys are both wrong - well cant disagree with him there
so crikey whats your point if not just an argument for arguments sake?
crikey said:to suggest that the insurbents that are blowing hundred of innocent Iraqis everyday are defending me against American hegemony is insulting to the Iraqi people, who don't deserve to be used as pawns to suit somebody elses conflict.
whitedog said:Why is it insulting to them?
It is actually true.
Your freedom is threatened by US globalist policies, as much as theirs.
Just that the threat to you not quite so immediate.
"They are defending all the Arabs and they are defending all the people of the world against American hegemony."
dave arc-i said:and IF the americans were on our streets pulling the same sort of shit wouldn't you be trying to defend what you saw as yours - of course you can conveniently forget that that there is now an internal struggle taking place between shia/shi-ite and kurds which is accounting for much of the civillian atrocities and that has been caused by a lack of stability following the invasion - now who does benefit from that situation?
anyway cant be bothered getting invovled in what is so obviously just a vehicle for you to get your jollies from...............i think you may have seen one of these before?
whitedog said:So, crikey, answer my original question: Why is it insulting to the Iraqi people?
crikey said:Sorry, I am bust at work and so cannot guarantee super fast posting.
'"This to me demonstrates how little George cares about Iraqis. I am very anti-Iraq war but to suggest that the insurgents that are blowing up hundreds of innocent Iraqis everyday are defending me against American hegemony is insulting to the Iraqi people, who don't deserve to be used as pawns to suit somebody elses conflict. "
This is why.
The people I know from Iraq do not live in Iraq - they are ethnic Shias and Kurds and were forced to leave the country during Sadams regime - one of the factors in their dislike of Mr Galloway.
Galloway said:"Two of your beautiful daughters are in the hands of foreigners - Jerusalem and Baghdad.
"The foreigners are doing to your daughters as they will.
"The daughters are crying for help and the Arab world is silent. And some of them are collaborating with the rape of these two beautiful Arab daughters"
whitedog said:...so they don't like Mr. Galloway because they are dispossed?
And that is his fault?
Surely now that Iraq is once again a free and democratic society your friends should be somewhat more happy about the state of affairs there...
...and... why is what Mr. Galloway said insulting to the Iraqi people?
evilwill said:totally agree with what purusha said...
galloway is not to be trusted or held up as an example of a 'good' politician on 'our' side, the man's a publicity seeking extremist.
he has done and said some great things though (his meeting with the us congress was superb)
hmmm, i dont pretend to be in possession of all the facts, but surely much of the violence and bombing in iraq is between the warring factions in iraq who are now in a position to attack each other cos the reign of saddam hussein has now fallen? very little to do with defending the arab world from the americans...
purusha has already quoted it, but this:
is inexcusible in the current climate in the middle east... that sort of statement makes him a twat in my opinion...
whitedog said:I agree that his choice of words may be considered inflammatory.