Crikey, that is a beast! I have some catching up to do in this thread.
I went to quite a few dnb raves in the 90s, gentrified wasn't quite the name for the atmosphere in a large proportion of them.Hilariously earnest bit of well-actually-ism from the Quietus:
Yeh the 'dnb was gentrified jungle' argument doesn't sound very plausible to me, and to be honest I can't say I've ever heard anyone make it. I suppose if there is some kind of nostalgic idea of jungle as more authentic then it probably has more to do with the violence and commercialisation that seemed to afflict dnb far worse. So jungle may be seen as less corruptible or whatever. Still, I didn't really disagree with anything in the substance of the article - just found it quite a funny thing to get riled up about given how grandstanding about the purity of subgenres is itself fairly authentic to UK dance music subcultures!I went to quite a few dnb raves in the 90s, gentrified wasn't quite the name for the atmosphere in a large proportion of them.
I went to a massive fight in Southampton once and a dnb rave broke out. That was probs the craziest one I went to. It was a warzone
Closely followed by one at the The Depot in Bristol (anyone remember that? The best nightclub Bristol ever had) when a slavic bouncer went loco with a bar stool on some chav looking types right next to us at the bar. Put me right off my warm red stripe, I can tell you
I'd definitely agree that the gentrification framing is much more useful for thinking about present trends in bass music. But then these worries seem far more applicable to the current resurgence of jungle than to anything going on in dnb. If anything I'd be tempted to argue that the perceived authenticity of jungle is precisely what gentrification would depend on.I haven't been to a straight up dnb rave in yonks , but I have heard they are nothing like they used to be in the early days. So maybe the gentrification argument applies to the modern era? Not that the article makes that case