Subbie said:Sounds too good to be true
I guess in light of recent events bombing has become a rather messy way of getting the struggle through. South Africa would never be the place it is if the struggle climax was in this century-back in the 70's etc it was the way to get a regime-change-by bombs upon bombs from both sides.
Next: Israel will decide to end the occupation of Palestine.
Ratty said:What a shame they had to kill so many innocent people to create and legitimise a political party.
Maybe Al Qieda will have a seat in the commons soon too.
AQ aren't a political party and don't have a political wing.Ratty said:What a shame they had to kill so many innocent people to create and legitimise a political party.
Maybe Al Qieda will have a seat in the commons soon too.
Squagnut said:AQ aren't a political party and don't have a political wing.
Of course I don't approve of terrorist methods - I wouldn't regard this as good news if I did. Trust them? Show me a politician who is trustworthy, never mind a terrorist. Is it the end of the Troubles? I kinda doubt it.
All active sides in the Troubles have told us what they want the future to be like, although all sides also have their eyes firmly glued on the past. To use a car-driving analogy, it's like having several people all scrabbling for control of the steering wheel, and when any one of them gets control for a moment, they steer by peering myopically into the rear-view mirror.
crikey said:it's a hell of a good sign that bombing works (or at least gets you a seat in government).
dont be ni eeeveSquagnut said:AQ aren't a political party and don't have a political wing.
Of course I don't approve of terrorist methods - I wouldn't regard this as good news if I did. Trust them? Show me a politician who is trustworthy, never mind a terrorist. Is it the end of the Troubles? I kinda doubt it.
All active sides in the Troubles have told us what they want the future to be like, although all sides also have their eyes firmly glued on the past. To use a car-driving analogy, it's like having several people all scrabbling for control of the steering wheel, and when any one of them gets control for a moment, they steer by peering myopically into the rear-view mirror.
Ott^ said:As I recall, that only happened once the bombing stopped.
It took the good Friday agreement and a few years of ceasefire before anyone got a seat in Government.
Is it naive to be just a teensy bit hopeful? I'm not saying or thinking that it's all ok now, but after hearing all sides scream NEVER!! at each other, this is refreshing. As I said, trust? No. Is there stuff going on that we don't know about? Yes. Have there been loyalist paramilitary groups bearing arms that bear a striking resemblance to British Army issue kit? Yes. Skeletons in the closet on all sides? Yes. Are the IRA trying to gain the moral high ground? Ha ha ha. Have we been spoonfed a load of crap about British involvement in Irish history? Ha hahahaaaaaaaaaa.mickeyblueiiiis said:dont be ni eeeve
grokit23 said:They'd already won seats well before then... they just refused to take them up.
grokit23 said:They'd already won seats well before then... they just refused to take them up.
- Arnold Wesker, Chips With EverythingAlways always always! Your great-great-grandfather said there'll always be horses, your great-grandfather said there'll always be slaves, your grandfather said there'll always be poverty and your father said there'll always be wars. Each time you say 'always' the world takes two steps backwards and stops bothering.
Squagnut said:Is it naive to be just a teensy bit hopeful? I'm not saying or thinking that it's all ok now, but after hearing all sides scream NEVER!! at each other, this is refreshing. As I said, trust? No. Is there stuff going on that we don't know about? Yes. Have there been loyalist paramilitary groups bearing arms that bear a striking resemblance to British Army issue kit? Yes. Skeletons in the closet on all sides? Yes. Are the IRA trying to gain the moral high ground? Ha ha ha. Have we been spoonfed a load of crap about British involvement in Irish history? Ha hahahaaaaaaaaaa.