new track, comments please

very good. really, very very good.

I enjoyed that, lots of very good ideas, nice 'invalid parameters' sample. Good, clean production. Everything in there is really very good indeed.

Maybe looking for that one 'killah' tune at the end though. Just what I'd do, but then, what the hell do I know :)

Loved it. great.
 
yeah liked the invalid parameters sample too :)

production is very good, especially the bassline (what did you use for that? i spent hours last night playing around with eq and compression on a bassline and got absolutely nowhere near that... quite eskimo-ish which is no bad thing)

nice (but generic) psytrance squeaky pitchmod noises throughout, lots of good noises indeed. overall i'd say it sounds like psytrance! nothing in there thats really groundbreaking or new, but production wise its better than almost anything i've heard on this forum (including my stuff heheh) and if i bought it on a compilation album or something it'd def go into my playlist :D

same goes for the 2nd tune, both very well done, def better than stuff i've heard released... that said not as interesting as say talpa ;)

hope that comes across positive like its supposed to!
 
:) thanks guys! i'm glad you liked it. magicdave i know what you're saying about "layers of complexity" i always try and add that in my tracks but it always seems to muddy up the sound and take away from the raw goodness so i revert back to something more simple, could be because i make my tracks using 1k of hk audio speakers turned up three quarter volume :crazy: so it's maybe too easy to enjoy a good bassline, drum pattern, noise combo if you know what i mean. evilwill the basslines v-station with a bit of eq, i never use compression though. oh and all of you would probably be suprised to hear it's done in fruityloops!
 
v-station? fruityloops?

heheh the bassline i was playing with was done on my ks5 (novation hardware synth with mainly same synth engine as v-station), and using fruityloops too!

what version of fruityloops are you using? having bought the software i've got lifetime updates and have the full studio version of the latest one. the new proper automation, mixer routing and recording make it really quite powerful. i've played with logic (and seen people who use it lots use it) enough times now to know that i'm really not being limited at all by using fruityloops (to write psytrance). the interface is also so much better than logic... i really dislike the huge amounts of long windows menus and bizzarely glitchy / badly conceived editor windows in logic...

erm yeah, enough of my anti-logic nonsense. i should point out i'm talking about pc logic and i'm fairly sure the new apple version is nice and shiny...
 
i'm using fl studio 4.1. I must say it's refreshing to see someone not knocking fruity for a change :)
 
oh just spotted evil wills comment about generic pitch mod noises, i only put the "bac waaaaaa" in there in jest really, my mate simplified psy down to three or four little bits, "bac waaaaaa" being one of them. :p
 
hydrophane said:
i'm using fl studio 4.1. I must say it's refreshing to see someone not knocking fruity for a change :)
I know of at least 2 producers who have/about to have releases who have produced their tunes in Fruity. I was suprised and impressed.
 
full_lotus said:
I know of at least 2 producers who have/about to have releases who have produced their tunes in Fruity. I was suprised and impressed.

good stuff! can i have some names, i'd be interested to hear/compare it to other artists
 
Er, I think one of 'em is on Alien FM - Dropout productions, can't remember the name of it, and the other isn't released as yet. Tell you what, I'll have a listen and let you know ;)
 
I use FL all the time. I find if you have loads of parts playing at once the quality suffers, but when I export to Cubase then everything is hunkydory.

Do you mix in FL, or just come up with ideas?
 
Speakafreaka said:
I use FL all the time. I find if you have loads of parts playing at once the quality suffers, but when I export to Cubase then everything is hunkydory.

Do you mix in FL, or just come up with ideas?

yeah i mix in fruity as well, but i agree with what you're saying about quality going down as the number of parts goes up, i've been thinking about switching to something else for ages, but i get really frustrated when i try to use a program i'm not familiar with.
 
Yeah, the switch is not easy!!!

FL is sooooo intuitive.

I switched to Cubase about 2 years ago, and yes, it was bloody weird to start with. Maybe if you were to write tunes in FL, and then export the individual parts to another sequencer?

Sony's Acid Pro is a great 'inbetween' programme which gets you used to the sequencer way of doing things with audio, but is still very intuitive.

I still go back to FL to make one shot noises. It also has that nice arpeggiator on every channel, and a billion and one plugins (some of the buzz effects are just great). Just wish they'd sort out the EQ and final mixdown, although, having said that, mixing down to a 32bit file and then converting it does help somewhat
 
Speakafreaka said:
I use FL all the time. I find if you have loads of parts playing at once the quality suffers, but when I export to Cubase then everything is hunkydory.

Do you mix in FL, or just come up with ideas?

eh? how do you mean the quality suffers? not something i've noticed but perhaps its something i should have ?!

i do the whole thing in fruityloops, but i've just got the creamware scope platform to do some more fancy bits and pieces like mastering and stuff. i'd actually quite like to run fruityloops as a plugin in something like logic or cubase but i never really get the time to sort such things out properly. besides, once you've got a setup working how you want its not really worth changing without a very good reason...
 
hydrophane said:
oh just spotted evil wills comment about generic pitch mod noises, i only put the "bac waaaaaa" in there in jest really, my mate simplified psy down to three or four little bits, "bac waaaaaa" being one of them. :p

heheh, yep thats the way it is with psy! i like noises like that though, just been learning how to make them on my ks5 - a few here and there is all good :D
 
Sounding very tasty... captivated by the chick: 'boom, CHICK, boom, CHICK,...etc. could do with turning down (and adding effects???) to enhance the other aspects of the track...(am rather stoned listening to it now).....got groove and comes full circle!
Phat:bananada:
 
hydrophane said:
I must say it's refreshing to see someone not knocking fruity for a change :)

Hehe... I'll shut up. But I've never really used the program in its later guises so the 2001 version I looked at will be well out of date compared to what your using.

I'd agree with previous comments on both the good level of production and the lack of layers and complexities...

Have you tried some hard-bandlimiting parts to specific areas of the spectrum? If I have two synths (for example) that are both close to each other in frequency content and thus; although the notation works, the sounds conflict as a consequnce, leading to muddying of the mix - I'll edge them apart with a graphic so that the main bulk of each synth sits in areas not occupied by other synths.

Play with your parametrics, I am assuming that FL gives you a parametric EG on each channel?
 
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