Police investigate CIA at British airports

beyondmirrors

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Hello all my name is Beyondmirrors

I wanted my first post to bring this to your attention, as a reminder of the many things that go on in our name. I hope the police succeed in proving that Tony Blair, Jack Straw and Charles Clark did know something about these flights operating in the UK.

All the best

BM:smoke:
Police investigate CIA's use of British airports

By Nigel Morris and Ben Russell

Published: 20 December 2005



Police have launched an investigation into persistent claims that the CIA used British airports to fly terrorist suspects for torture in secret camps abroad.

Days after Tony Blair insisted he knew nothing about such "extraordinary rendition" operations, the move by the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) threatens to embarrass the Government.

It is also the first attempt by the authorities to examine detailed claims that CIA flights have touched down more than 200 times in Britain.

Michael Todd, chief constable of Greater Manchester, is expected to review evidence collected by human rights campaigners and interview senior police officers from 10 forces across the country.

The investigation will attempt to establish whether there is evidence to back claims that CIA flights used British airports as stopping-off points while carrying terror suspects to secret detention camps around the world. It could develop into a criminal inquiry.

Mr Todd is due to meet campaigners in the new year to discuss his preliminary findings.

The move by the police came during a meeting yesterday with senior figures from the human rights group Liberty.

Shami Chakrabarti, the director of Liberty, said: "We are very pleased the police are taking these concerns seriously. If suspects are being taken through the UK on their way to face torture, there have been serious breaches of international and domestic law. We intend to help the police and call on individuals with any information to come forward."

Andrew Tyrie, the Conservative chairman of the parliamentary all-party group on rendition, yesterday welcomed the investigation and urged civil servants with knowledge of illegal rendition flights to report their evidence to their departmental heads.

Mr Tyrie said: "I'm pleased by this decision. There is increasing circumstantial evidence to suggest that extraordinary rendition may be taking place and that activity may well be illegal. I very much regret that the Government have done their best to walk on the other side of the street and have made no proper effort to investigate it at all."

He said: "It's the duty under the Civil Service Code for anyone to report to their permanent secretary information about possible unlawful activities, including breaches of any international treaties."

Sir Menzies Campbell, the Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman, said: "This is a most welcome development and underlines the independence of the investigating authorities in the United Kingdom. If the law is being breached and there is evidence to establish this, prosecution should follow."

"If any use of British airfields is in breach of our obligations, there would not only be legal consequences but serious political ones as well."

An Acpo spokeswoman refused to disclose details of the investigation. She said: "It was a useful discussion and we will have a further meeting with Liberty in January."

A group of peace activists in West Sussex has submitted a formal request to Kenneth Jones, the county's chief constable, to supply details of US flights in and out of Gatwick airport.

The Committee Against Criminal Renditions has told him: "It is clearly apparent, from credible reports and information, that flights by certain American civil registered aircraft have transited the airport, which are involved in these activities."

It is calling for an investigation into whether "your force, or any other force or security service acting with your knowledge, has undertaken any investigation into the nature of these flights, their crew, passengers and purpose and what was the outcome of any such investigation".

A spokeswoman for Sussex police said: "We will be looking into the contents [of the claims] and will respond accordingly."


Police have launched an investigation into persistent claims that the CIA used British airports to fly terrorist suspects for torture in secret camps abroad.

Days after Tony Blair insisted he knew nothing about such "extraordinary rendition" operations, the move by the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) threatens to embarrass the Government.

It is also the first attempt by the authorities to examine detailed claims that CIA flights have touched down more than 200 times in Britain.

Michael Todd, chief constable of Greater Manchester, is expected to review evidence collected by human rights campaigners and interview senior police officers from 10 forces across the country.

The investigation will attempt to establish whether there is evidence to back claims that CIA flights used British airports as stopping-off points while carrying terror suspects to secret detention camps around the world. It could develop into a criminal inquiry.

Mr Todd is due to meet campaigners in the new year to discuss his preliminary findings.

The move by the police came during a meeting yesterday with senior figures from the human rights group Liberty.

Shami Chakrabarti, the director of Liberty, said: "We are very pleased the police are taking these concerns seriously. If suspects are being taken through the UK on their way to face torture, there have been serious breaches of international and domestic law. We intend to help the police and call on individuals with any information to come forward."

Andrew Tyrie, the Conservative chairman of the parliamentary all-party group on rendition, yesterday welcomed the investigation and urged civil servants with knowledge of illegal rendition flights to report their evidence to their departmental heads.

Mr Tyrie said: "I'm pleased by this decision. There is increasing circumstantial evidence to suggest that extraordinary rendition may be taking place and that activity may well be illegal. I very much regret that the Government have done their best to walk on the other side of the street and have made no proper effort to investigate it at all."


He said: "It's the duty under the Civil Service Code for anyone to report to their permanent secretary information about possible unlawful activities, including breaches of any international treaties."

Sir Menzies Campbell, the Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman, said: "This is a most welcome development and underlines the independence of the investigating authorities in the United Kingdom. If the law is being breached and there is evidence to establish this, prosecution should follow."

"If any use of British airfields is in breach of our obligations, there would not only be legal consequences but serious political ones as well."

An Acpo spokeswoman refused to disclose details of the investigation. She said: "It was a useful discussion and we will have a further meeting with Liberty in January."

A group of peace activists in West Sussex has submitted a formal request to Kenneth Jones, the county's chief constable, to supply details of US flights in and out of Gatwick airport.

The Committee Against Criminal Renditions has told him: "It is clearly apparent, from credible reports and information, that flights by certain American civil registered aircraft have transited the airport, which are involved in these activities."

It is calling for an investigation into whether "your force, or any other force or security service acting with your knowledge, has undertaken any investigation into the nature of these flights, their crew, passengers and purpose and what was the outcome of any such investigation".

A spokeswoman for Sussex police said: "We will be looking into the contents [of the claims] and will respond accordingly."

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article334134.ece
 
The trick with just about any political campaign is to choose the issue carefully. e.g. If you want to have a go at New Labour, don't talk about say, road building, talk about education.

The same apples to the entire Iraq War, War on Terror, Torture, Human Rights, Freedom of Expression, Credibility issue. If you try to campaign on the issue of say, conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11, you aren't going to get very far. If on the other hand you campaign on the legitimacy of torture, and you've got the facts to back you up...

You can demonstrate all kinds of things.

1. Abuse and disregard for human rights
2. Contempt for the Rule of Law
3. A country acting illegally, and above the law
4. Barbaric behaviour that places the US and its allies on the same level as the terrorists
5. The fact that the US and its allies are doing this secretly indicates that they know most of their people would regard it as being unacceptable. But they still do it.
6. That our leaders are lying to us
7. If they're lying about his, what else are they lying about. (That's a good one, and has been gathering pace ever since the WMD debacle.)

Because you can demonstrate these things, you can get some of the "heavy hitters" on side. And so the entire thing escalates, to the point where it's unstopable.

Then if you add in the fact that the US will never "win" in Iraq, that it can never win there, and that the longer it stays the more clearly that's demonstrated, the issue will never leave the minds of the ordinary citizen. It can't. It's all over their television screens every day.

With that sort of background, it's amazing what can be done...

Hugs,

Barclay
 

Monkey Do

#1 Internet Toughguy
Hmmm, there is something familiar about the style of this first post...can't...quite...put...my...finger...on...it...



 

grokit23

God mintsmak
Monkey Do said:
Hmmm, there is something familiar about the style of this first post...can't...quite...put...my...finger...on...it...

Well if it is, at least he's managed to change topic and to quote from a reasonably reputable source for once.
 

grokit23

God mintsmak
I really hope you show some interest in some other aspects of this forum rather than just politics and conspiracies then. :Smile3:

Do you like psychedelic music at all?
 
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