Reverse Reverb

Reconstructed Jan 12, 2005

  1. Reconstructed

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    I'm having a bit of trouble getting a convincing reverse reverb effect working on my snares. You know, where it sounds like the crack of the snare eases in from half a beat ahead of time and gives it a really dramatic effect. Same principle used with a reverse cymbal. I understand the principles of reversing just the reverb signal and nudging it up to the the snare hit, but I can't quite get a really convincing and well-done sound.

    Might one of our many production gurus give me a few pointers?
     
  2. saxopholus

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    Are u doing it within a wave editor like Sound Forge or Bias? It may be easier to fit everything together within one using fade-in/outs, envelopes, etc.
     
  3. The Phonographist

    The Phonographist www.lucidoxford.com

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    What do you mean by "unconvincing" ?

    The way I do it is to solo the relevant channel(s) and bounce it with the relevant reverb already in place, ready at the correct level. Then reverse it in Soundforge. Though Im assuming that's what you do (?)
     
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    Yeah I do it all on wave editors, be it Wavelab, Soundforge, Cool Edit, whatever. Reverse the sample, whack the reverb on, un reverse and hey presto.

    You can also get reverse reverb fx out an ADSR reverb unit, like Emagic's EnVerb, though this sounds quite different and I don't think is what you're after. Worth playing with though...
     
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    Faction Proto-col

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    You could also try using a reversed instance of the sample itself (at a lower volume), instead of reverb. You can hear an example of this on our track Kundalini Rising (clip available on the Triskele website).
     
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    Zaven Time to prime..

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    Remember the reverb in the first Poltergeist movie - the one when the little girl? (Heather something - she died of cancer if I remember - anyway, I digress)

    I propper shit myself. Don't dare use it anymore case I get sucked by my mac.















    There again, that doesn't sound so bad..




    :trippn:

    Nate nails it; check New Directions, you know those reverb hooks titter the taste-buds.. jah'mon..


    Hnnnnngh *PoP!* - now get back to your studies..

    :tongue1:
     
  7. Abstraction

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    is the problem to do with the colouration of the reverb or is it that the reverb seems to be pulling the snare out of time with the rest of the drums? or is it something completely different?
     
  8. Speakafreaka

    Speakafreaka Champagne Rouletter

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    I reckon Colin has it here...

    or if the sound is too ringy, have you tried using delay instead?

    This can give you space without screwing around with the ambience to the same degree. worth a go. Try using Fruity Loops, 'coz you can control the exact number or delays you want. And reverse samples on the fly.
     
  9. Reconstructed

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    Thanks for the replies.

    I've got a handle of doing the process, I just can't quite make it click together to sound really sexy. Here is an example of what I am talking about:

    Click here to listen

    (From an Issa Bagayogo CD)
     
  10. Speakafreaka

    Speakafreaka Champagne Rouletter

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    I'm not convinced that is reverb! Whatever it is it's well done. I would almost be inclined to think it's brush on a snare with the rattles set...

    but sure as hell it isn't delay so I'll be quiet.
     
  11. saxopholus

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    Agreed, a snare swept with a brush stick.
     
  12. Abstraction

    Abstraction happy juice

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    sounds like white noise to me
     
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    I'm 99% sure that is a sampled snare drum, as the entire rest of the album uses almost exclusively sampled percussion so I would rule out a brush stick.
     
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    ??couldn't it be a sampled brush stick??
     
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