Sync Synth Filter Conundrum

Speakafreaka

Champagne Rouletter
Does anyone know of a synth that has a similar filter to the Oscar synth (NO! not all filters are created equal! Anyone you uses either an IMPoscar like me or the real deal will tell you that they are completely different and **special** , a filter that has the ability to have razor sharp resonance and total smoothness at the same time) and allows oscillators to be synced?

Hardware of Software, I just want to know what to save for!

What I'm really thinking is, that a Oscar with sync would be the ultimate Bass synth. And lead synth. But so much of what the oscar does is down to that lovely lovely filter. I've not heard another filter like it. Well Okay requirements.

Variable Keyboard Tracking
Variable Filter Drive
Self Oscillation
Utter Smoothness

as a bear minimum.

Help
 

Continuum

Throb Farmer
Buy my microwave XT. It's lush :Smile3:
 

Speakafreaka

Champagne Rouletter
I agree... Waldorf filters are lush if the A1 is anything to go by. But can it Osc Sync? (properly I mean)
 

Continuum

Throb Farmer
Speakafreaka said:
I agree... Waldorf filters are lush if the A1 is anything to go by. But can it Osc Sync? (properly I mean)

My GOd can it. And other wavetabley sonic mangulation I can't really describe.
 

Speakafreaka

Champagne Rouletter
Hmm.

Just checked out the samples on the front of music tech mag this month, and it isn't going to do what I want it to do, but I think I may want one anyway! The filter is great, really interesting and quite dirty, but not what I was after. The lack ( i think) of filter drive may be the problem, or maybe it is the wavetables adding an extra character which I wasn't looking for. Who knows! However, it clearly screams like a bastard. Good at bell noises too.

What condition is yours in, and how much were you looking for?
 

JPsychodelicacy

Studio Elf
Continuum said:

Aw dude...

Look on it this way though. In a few months AMD are going to drop their prices again and you'll be able to pick up an A64 X2 machine for next to nothing... rendering a lot of your hardware redundant. :Smile3:

I had to give Arv back his Nord a few weeks back, but I have to say that even with my 1.5 year vintage XP2600 I'm not missing it much*!

J.

* - Though as a learning tool it was invaluable - cheers Arv!
 

Continuum

Throb Farmer
Speakafreaka said:
What condition is yours in, and how much were you looking for?

It's in perfect lived-in-a-cupboard-for-two-years condition. Couple of scratches and a bit dusty. Otherwise perfect. I've no idea how much I want for it, but they seem to go on ebay for around the £300 mark.
 

Abstraction

happy juice
whitedog said:
Supernova???

no, they have oscillator sync but its an emulation of real oscillator sync. i dont know how it works but it negates the need for a master osc by synching the osc in question to some imaginary one or something. anyway the point is it sounds shit. but if your looking for a good bass synth with proper osc sync, get a korg ms2000. they are v. v. good for basses and leads and funny sound fx. everything except pads really, and not too dear these days either.
 

Speakafreaka

Champagne Rouletter
Yeah, apart from the dodgy syncing, the supernova is a really good suggestion as they (SN and OSCar) are designed by the same bloke, Chris Huggett. Bit of a genius really.

What I'm now doing is trying to reverse engineer the OSCar in Reaktor and add some features that I think would work really well with it. Which is fairly arrogant really, but what the hell. I've been finding things out, and analysing waveforms feverishly.

Of course, it won't really sound like an OSCar, but it might sound okay. And reverse engineering things is turning out to be a lot of fun, and very worthwhile in its own right. For instance, I've now found out why the PWM on an OSCar is sooooo fat on basses. And why I love the filter so much.

I've come up with some more 'modifications' so far then just sync. Involving some mad ideas with the user waves and FX section. I'm not going to implement any of that though until I've nailed the basic synth.

Fun!
 

Speakafreaka

Champagne Rouletter
mwah ha ha!!!

It lives



Anyone with reaktor 4 up fancy some beta testing? Everything you see here is working. Just got to sort out the user waves, arpeggiator, triggering, filter drive, and velocity sensitivity out.

*ahem*

It looks cool though! :Smile3:
 
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