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what about drum solos?
Pushing it, I reckon, though this is not due to the fact it is a drum solo, but that the style is contemporary/pop/rock rather than Classical. Guy's got chops, however - I'll give you that! And in posting the Beethoven, Debussy and Satie, you have nominated three of my favourites. If you enjoy the Gymnopedies, I can also recommend the Gnossiennes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLFVGwGQcB0&list=PLCICN4sN4C8fwxj6jSe2N5a_OTdpcZWub


not the best quality but still
Never heard this before - beautiful, thank you.
 

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OK, maybe I jumped the gun a bit in assuming you were taking the mickey - may I ask what it is a reworking of
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When you say something like "Garage classical", are you referring to Orbit-style productions that run with Classical themes? If so, then probably it is pertinent, hence asking a bit more about that track in particular. It might be classical x, y, z, but is it also Classical?
Not my sphere sorry. I thought it was pertinent as a trend within your sphere. I’ll re-read your OP.

BTW your threads Minaj would probably be Falco.
 
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Again, I think that's pushing it - I don't really want to this thread to end up full of what amounts to ambient post-rock as there's plenty of space elsewhere for that. That said, the artist is new to me and I really like the track, so ran a search and apparently it's from a TV score, so from that perspective, it qualifies on a technicality.

Basically what I'm after stylistically is not-contemporary - Classical actual, something that amounts to a genuine fusion, e.g. Max Richter, and related avant garde traditions, e.g. musique concrète. Obviously there are some grey areas, especially with electronic music, and can kinda see why you suggested it, but if I was going in blind and you'd posted in something like Now Playing, I'd describe this as contemporary.

Mind you, it's not Nicki Minaj, so if in doubt, post.
 

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Sigh. You know fine well that contemporary can refer to two different things within this context: 1) Music that is not Classical, such as pop, rock, electronica, jazz, dance etc.; 2) Modern, which is why works by Classical/fusion composers such as Fernandez, Richter, Baranowski and Kent all feature in this thread. In fact, pretty much everything I posted by them was released in the last five years. This demarcation is not of my making just to be picky and awkward, but an academic one used widely in universities, articles and books. It’s exactly the same as for romantic/Romantic, though it is not always capitalised in my experience - a synonym for contemporary Classical is neo-Classical, of course. For the life of me, I can’t work out why you’re pleading ignorance or being so sarky.

Like, seriously, how hard can it be? Every other thread on this forum is not Classical. If I wanted a discussion about garage or ambient post-rock, I would open one. The suggestion that parameters are exacting is laughable considering the OP welcomes contributions from all eras, a period of time spanning literally centuries of evolving traditions including avant garde movements such as musique concrète - most of Frank Es acousmatic thread would qualify, for example - and related TV or film scores. Just because something has a piano in it (or whatever) doesn’t make it Classical, otherwise I might as well post Step On by Happy Monday, twist my own melon and have done. After that, I’ll be sure to head over to your folk thread and post Dorset Perception by Shpongle, because it features an acoustic guitar and female vocals, so sue me etc. *more eye rolling* Frankly, it’s tiresome to find myself defending this topic from someone with your ears, likely killing it in the process, having defended that one when Nicki Minaj was posted, but yeah, whatevs. I can’t force anyone to play ball and wouldn’t want to, but please let’s not pretend you don’t understand.

Yes, I am familiar with Winged Victory and while I would not have included them personally, would suggest they are a good example of “grey areas”.
 

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I don't get why you are taking a throwaway jokey comment so seriously. I haven't listened to any proper classical in a year but still wanted to contribute to your thread.
 

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As I said, if in doubt, post. And I really mean it. I thought 2much2young was pulling a Minaj on me when he went with the garage tune, but when it became clear this was not the case, I asked him why it was posted in all genuineness, so it’s not like I am unwilling to engage just because something doesn’t seem to fit. I can take a joke, mate – “Falco” made me laugh out loud and had someone else posted the track in question, I’d have laughed out loud at that too - but the fact that your comments seemed to suggest you are ignorant of certain distinctions when I happen to know better (as in, I know better OF you rather THAN you, just to be clear) got on my tits, not gonna lie. Just seemed like you were yanking my chain for the sake of it and I couldn’t be chewed. If that was an error, then consider this a recant, because of course I’d be interested in any contributions, now or in future. As favourite ears go, you're up there and I really mean that as well.
 

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Totally random stumble last night, albeit on YouTube, and thought, "Where do I know that name from?" Long story short (thanks, Discogs), it's the techno producer, Rrose! Fascinated. I've only listed through once so far, but the two I went back to were tracks three and eight, called Study No. 2 and Study No. 99, respectively. Great stuff! Talk about a whole new respe...sorry, I mean...rrespect.


Had a sniff through the label's back catalogue and it's teeming with experimental stuff, some of which is actually much older than Bandcamp has been alive, including recordings of live performances, so only became available digitally more recently. I clicked on one called Silence Resounding by a Japanese lady called Miki Yui because I liked the title and it has a manipulated field recording vibe, whereas the photo of moss attracted me to Masaya Kato's Waveform Aberrations and that features fucked up keyboards such as a Fender Rhodes. @Frank E might be interested in some of these?

https://lineimprint.bandcamp.com/music
 

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rrose did a gong only live set i think that is on youtube.

Just rrose and a gong. Blimey
 

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Well that was pretty handy.
I went out to the beer garden at the near-campus pub for a vape after the garden talk tonight and got talking to these two geezers about Latin pronunciation variance in time and geography and it turned out they were composers and conductors.
Bemoaning that I can't listen to regular mixed choirs because of my spastic tensor tympani and that male voice choirs in the UK generally sing the same old Guide me o the Great *, etc repertoire it turns out one of them composes for male voice choir.
For some reason my mother was fluent in Swedish and sang in a Swedish choir.

Henryk Dahlgren https://www.henrikdahlgren.com/ http://www.facebook.com/henrikdahlgrenofficial
Tobias Patrick Wolf https://tpwolf.com/ https://www.facebook.com/wolfconductor/
Svaanholm singers: http://www.svanholmsingers.se/
 

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A lotta trance just sounds like Widor's Toccata in F minor, from Symphony No 5.

I do however like Widor's Toccata in F minor from Symphony No 5 though.
 

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Well that was pretty handy.
I went out to the beer garden at the near-campus pub for a vape after the garden talk tonight and got talking to these two geezers about Latin pronunciation variance in time and geography and it turned out they were composers and conductors.
Bemoaning that I can't listen to regular mixed choirs because of my spastic tensor tympani and that male voice choirs in the UK generally sing the same old Guide me o the Great *, etc repertoire it turns out one of them composes for male voice choir.
For some reason my mother was fluent in Swedish and sang in a Swedish choir.

Henryk Dahlgren https://www.henrikdahlgren.com/ http://www.facebook.com/henrikdahlgrenofficial
Tobias Patrick Wolf https://tpwolf.com/ https://www.facebook.com/wolfconductor/
Svaanholm singers: http://www.svanholmsingers.se/
Oh, wow! What are the chances?! I'll have a browse of these links at some point and see what the craic is, cheers. There are some beautiful moments in that vocal piece and the acoustics are just fantastic - great share!

Sutekh? Graham?
I don't follow. Seth Horvitz = Rrose = Sutekh. I've known of the techno guise Rrose for ages, but am only just familiarising myself with Horvitz as an experimental Classical composer and although I am aware he also went by Sutekh, I don't know any music released under that moniker just yet.

A lotta trance just sounds like Widor's Toccata in F minor, from Symphony No 5.

I do however like Widor's Toccata in F minor from Symphony No 5 though.
I wasn't familiar, so looked it up and am struggling to appreciate the comparison despite the fluid, hypnotic textures. Like!
 
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