I went to one of the first non-smoking bars in Birmingham a couple of years ago and it didnt stink of smoke. Instead it stank of blokes armpits.
We went elsewhere.
Poncho said:but on that point if people were really bothered about it then non smokers wouldn't go to smokey bars and clubs, there are non smoking pubs out there but they are way more empty than the smoking ones.
Keith Garrard, The Pipe Club of Norfolk
In my local pub, 80% of the customers in my local pub smoke, so I think a ban would just about finish them. If there was a ban, a cigarette smoker could nip outside for a smoke because it only takes five minutes.
But you can't do that with a pipe; the idea is to sit and enjoy it - and sometimes you can keep it burning for an hour-and-a-half. For me, if a ban was introduced there would be no point at all in turning up to the pub, I might as well sit at home with a bottle of wine. It would kill my social life.
Years ago, all the old pubs had smoking bars set aside, but for some reason that changed and they were opened up into one big room. Maybe they should re-introduce small rooms again.
the government should never go against the populus, its just a bad thing.
JohnM said:If someone wants to smoke - at the moment that is lawful and their business. The main issues as I understand it, are to do with the health & safety of others. More and more , employers (quite rightly) have a duty of care towards their employees.
Monkey Do said:I'm exposed to staircases at work every day. Do you know how many people are seriously injured or killed as a result of staircases each year? I bet it's a lot. I think the government should ban buildings with more than one floor, and those existing multifloored buildings should be fitted with inflatable slides onto those big mats stuntmen fall onto to minimise the risk to employees.
JohnM said:If there were people who's hobby directly affected the safety of staircases - eg they recreationally left banana skins on staircases, I'm sure the HSE or Govt would soon have words to say about their hobby - regardless of their "right" to do such a thing.
sqoo said:In principle I wouldnt mind. What I find chilling is the 'its for the common good at the expense of the few argument'.
I think pubs shuld have to apply for a smoking license, otherwise not be able to. And the thing about private clubs is only there coz MP are all members of at least one.