the war on drugs is an unmitigated disaster

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It doesn’t even matter what politicians’ views were on drug reform before they took office. In 2002, David Cameron was part of the home affairs committee when it recommended a discussion on “the possibility of legalisation and regulation”. Ten years later, when he was prime minister, he ruled out a suggestion from the very same home affairs committee that there should be a royal commission on drugs. No matter who sits in No.10, the view never changes. People who saw sense magically became impervious to it when in power. And then, like former home secretary Jacqui Smith, rediscover their sense after they have left it.

 

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because the us/CIA have used the international drug trade to move money round the world and fund then fight small groups in countries they want to destabilise
 

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ah, this article was about the UK/Europe. Thought you meant over here

True though. High level gangsters do profit from illegal drugs trade. Kinda axiomatic really

CIA= Capitalism's Invisible Army
 

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europe is one of the places the cia spends dodgy money, they like funding right wing groups covertly
 

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The same reason as they were prodding troubles before WW1 to help things along , europe was growing in economic power and it was a threat , same as now only much more insidious
 

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I very much doubt it, with Russia back in a belligerent mood and China finally woken up to the world. Not everything is a big conspiracy.
 

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That being said, the US don't like the Nordstream 2 gas pipeline. Defo "colour revolution" work for the US to be getting on with in the eastern countries as well.
 

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thats no surprise and afaik that condition they get immunity was why they payed the large fine (then took it back out of company money)
 

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The opioid crisis in the US is a strange one. I don't know too much about it. What I would like to know is at the doctor/patient interface, are/have patients been made aware that they are being given opiates as treatment?

And/Or are people taking this stuff blindly?
 
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I just watched this video.

When a Bioethics professor is gobbling opiates without research into what he is taking I start asking some questions.

I'm no stranger to opiates, and you know when you are taking them. Their psychoactive effects are not hidden. Couple this with the wall of unreferenced assertions put forward in this video and I may have to tap out here. I have no idea if what was just presented to me is true as its just words said out loud.

I'm not defending this Purdue company, however if we wish to (as I do) long for a world of decriminalised psychoactives then it's exactly this sort of stultifying lack of self awareness we must combat. As are the apparent social conditions that make a person not capable of simple research into pills they are prescribed. And it isn't just the poor people on the end of it, as I said - the video presented a Bioethics professor as evidence too!

If a person wishes their particular soma to be opiates then good luck to them, but to stumble blindly into full blown skag addiction could be described as a tad foolish. Especially in the Internet age.
 

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International Criminal Court authorizes investigation into bloody Philippine drug war led by Duterte

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MANILA — Judges at the International Criminal Court on Wednesday authorized an investigation into possible crimes against humanity conducted during Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte’s violent “war on drugs,” saying alleged extrajudicial killings represented a “widespread and systematic attack” against civilians.

The investigation opens a potential path for accountability in the Philippines, though any prosecution is likely to take years. Duterte, whose term as president expires next year, is maneuvering to find a successor who can protect him from prosecution.

Duterte, a populist who rose to power in 2016, is perhaps best known internationally as the architect of a drug war that has killed thousands. Official figures count some 6,000 dead, but the ICC prosecutor previously estimated that between 12,000 and 30,000 civilians were killed between July 2016 and March 2019.

Judges conducting a pretrial assessment of prosecutorial material said they indicated the war on drugs “cannot be seen as a legitimate law enforcement operation, and the killings neither as legitimate nor as mere excesses in an otherwise legitimate operation.”

A spokesperson for the president said that the Philippines would not cooperate with the investigation, according to Reuters. The Philippines withdrew from the ICC in 2019, in what was widely seen as an attempt to evade a probe. Since then, Duterte’s representatives have argued that the country is not under the jurisdiction of the court, though the top Philippine court has said the country must still cooperate with some ICC investigations.

The drug war is wildly popular in the Philippines and Duterte positioned himself during his presidential run as the only candidate who offered a solution to the prevalence of drugs, a longtime frustration among the urban poor.

Human rights organizations welcomed the announcement, which offers hope to survivors as many cases languish in local courts. A verdict can take up to 10 years in the Philippines, and only a handful of killings under Duterte’s term have resulted in convictions.

“Duterte and his cohorts should be made accountable for these crimes,” the human rights organization Karapatan said in a statement.

Prosecutors are examining killings between 2011 and 2019, when the Philippines was party to the Rome Statute, which established the court. Deaths between 2011 and early 2016 cover Duterte’s time as deputy mayor and mayor of Davao City, where hundreds of killings were affiliated with a vigilante group known as the “Davao death squad,” which researchers and witnesses previously linked to Duterte.

The ICC prosecutor said that these Davao killings were similar to those across the country after he became president. Drawing a connection between Duterte’s approach in Davao and as president, experts say, could strengthen the case against Duterte by showing a pattern.

Duterte recently said he would take on a bid for the vice presidency in 2022, a move analysts say was primarily motivated by a desire to defend himself against the risk of prosecution by the ICC.


And for some background, an interesting documentary about the Filipino drug war:

 
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