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Any thoughts/wishes/hopes???? Are you going to vote? Which party do you think is the lesser evil??
grokit23 said:I think that you're being taken in by Labour's propaganda, they've been dropping that "a vote for lib-dem will get the torys back in" nonsense all over the place, because they're scared of losing to the lib-dems in so many areas. They're using the Torys as the bogeyman to keep people voting for them.
Meijin said:How else will they learn?
JPsychodelicacy said:So you're advocating potentially taking a mostly anti-war party of the centre-left (in terms of membership) out of power, which *will* lead to replacing them with a pro-war hard-right party - in order to teach the incumbent party's soon to be outgoing leader a lesson?
Can't follow the logic there, mate.
If the Lib Dems become the primary opposition in the next electoral cycle, I'll begin to rest a bit easier. It's not enough to say 'the Tories are finished'... I want to see a body.
J. (And preferably dance and piss on its grave)
JPsychodelicacy said:I shall continue to vote Labour until the Tory Party is utterly dead and buried, but I seriously wish I didn't have to right now. All I can do is hope that the results will be such a narrow squeak that Blair will see the writing on the wall and bow out gracefully soon.
J.
Meijin said:Yes indeed
but you might have a different view if it was your mother or brother or child that was dead...
sorry to bring you down![]()
J'osh said:Too many people are still using this method of thinking which is what is keeping the labour/tory rivalry at the front of uk politics....... maybe if you took a chance at making the change to lib dems the tory party would get into power for 5 years, but maybe seeing the large lib dem swing now would mean that in 5 years time everyone that is in the position that you are now will finally make that move to vote lib dem, so in 5 years time we'd have a different government........
Meijin said:But I still think the key problem is that labour are essentially committed to capitalism and 'growth' - domestically, they attempt egalitarianism but they won't stand up to international aggression because it costs too much - a very sobering reality. If they could ditch their complete addiction/commitment to capitalism as a desireable objective and means to achieve the good society then perhaps they wouldn't be in the pockets of the US to such a degree