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i was told by me mate....if you get a large bowl with iced water in it and lob a pile of tobacco in it and swil it arround then drain and dry it you will get rid of the nicoteen and tar as they are both water soluble.

has anybody heard of this or know it to be true? i think drying them might be abit tricky - you could end up with a load of dust.

as a non smoker who does smoke weed it would be great if there was a system that i could use that stopped me havein to "come off" tobacco everytime i did not want to be stonned.
 

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You will get rid of a good proportion of the nicotine (which is very water soluble) and virtually none of the tar. You'll also lose a lot of the harshness (and flavor) of the smoke as the chemicalse responsible are also largely water soluble.

If you have some shit weed you can use this technique (cold water cure) to increase it's potency. THC does not dissolve readily in water but loads of other stuff does. Soak the weed in cold water overnight, drain and dry it. The weed will have reduced i weight but kept it's THC therefore the % THC will have increased. The weed will also lose the harsh, minty taste of the chlorophyll (that irritates the back of your throat and makes you cough). If you use a traditional cure (moisten the weed with a sprayer and keep in a sealed baggie in a warm place for a few days, opening the bag and turning frequently, until it loses some of it's green-ness) and THEN do a cold water cure even the shittest weed will be rendered smokable.
 

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if it doesnt have nicotine then whats the point... its like saying hey if u wash ur pills all the mdma washes away!
 

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well-in there Doc - choc full of info - cheers. glad you say the nicoteen content can be lowered. i was abit unsure about the tar meself . im goin to do the "cold water cure" :Smile3: tonight. so all will become clear...the taste should not be too much of a prob i guess cause it will be full of weed.
why smoke without nicoteen? im a non-smoker but do loads a weed in at the weekends so me mondays,tue.....well till bout thursday afternoon are kinda spoiled by me shity mood due to nicoteen withdrawal. and maybe i would not smoke as many J's if i was not "needin" the tobacco.
it would be nice to not smoke anything - i agree. that would be best but tell that to me at 6am after a night on the bounce and i will tell you a whole different story....
cheers
 

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I used to wash tobacco for chillum mixes. It makes it a lot less harsh, and it doesn't matter that it goes to powder, as baccy turns to powder for a chillum mix anyway. I would dry it in a small metal bowl over a low gas flame. I dunno about for spliffs tho'. If you can stomach it, there are herbal smoking mixes such as Honeyrose, but these are usually nicer than baccy for other people to smell but taste like shite for the smoker (IMO).

Or smoke a pipe or neat spliffs.
 

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Is this an environmental or a political issue?

Seems to be a bit of both to me..
 

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have you tried american spirit ciggies/tobacco or drum extra mild rolling tobacco...... less tar and chemicals than usual i think
 

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Fromem_Ory said:
if it doesnt have nicotine then whats the point... its like saying hey if u wash ur pills all the mdma washes away!

:Grin::Grin:

One pint of non-alcoholic wheat free, yeast free, sugar free beer please.....
 

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bella said:
Is this an environmental or a political issue?

Seems to be a bit of both to me..

hee hee - did not seem to fit anywhere so i jus sneeked into here :Smile3: - its nearly enviromental...lungs - think rainforest's and smokein weed think McDonalds cuttin down trees for cattle...desertification (sp)
cough - spultter - cough - sound of hippies choking on spliffs

drum extra mild you say? - okey do
i was usin silk-cut last week and i did'nt half notice how much worse the after-effects were of ciggies than tobacco. all them extra chems...

but if nicoteen is watersoluble why is it there at all. you would of thought that if its so easily removable then there would be a market made by pepole who want to smoke at the weekends - like when you are out drinking but could do without the addiction. next festy im gonna launch me a new brand of "building mertials" (turn up with a tesco's bag of moldy drum xtra mild)
 
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while on the subject (and ive been noticing this for years) when people are building chillums they be warming up (thats how i'd describe it as the paper doesnt burn) the paper around a cigarette with their lighter flame before unloading the tobacco for a chillum mix - i asked why > they said [californian hiipy drawl]"..cos it burns of the naaasty chemicals maaan"

sounds like utter bollocks to me! as the contents are barely warmed and defo not a high enough temp to burn of any chems surely

anyone shed any light or back me up on this?
 

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humm - i was also told by the same bloke that - runn a lighter underthe fag for a few mins and it will evapourate some chems off but also draws somw tar off and into to paper. there will be loads of chems in there that either water or heat will remove im sure...
every little helps i guess and it will add another little stage in the ritual of makin a J - which most peeps like - i hate makin J's and do it as fast as poss - or get somebody to do it for me.
organic fags - nice one. can you get free-range skins?
smokin it pure? you cough loads and you need a spare ton a cash to get more wab as it goes vvvvv quick - but apart from that it is very nice - start growin me own i guess...
me mate has a few plants and she said she would save the leaves as building material - can you do this? thought they taste bad??
 

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The best alternative to tobacco i've found is raspberry leaves, its quite mild, burns well and has an inoffensive taste. However if u can afford it, pure is best!
 

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imak said:
sounds like utter bollocks to me! as the contents are barely warmed and defo not a high enough temp to burn of any chems surely

That's utter bollocks mate.

" Toasting the fag " ( it does well smell like toast when your doing it ) it done to dry the baccy out, so that it can be " rooshed " into the mix better.

Take your toasted fag, remove any remaining scorched paper, and grind it with finger and thumb, until you have a dark brown *powder*.

Take a lump of hash, and stick it on a pin. Set fire to hash, then chuck it into the powdered baccy.

Grind the lot up together quickly between thumb and fingers while the hash is still hot. Because you are directly mixing it with the baccy, it won't go so lumpy, any lumps that remain heat directly with lighter, and quickly " roosh it up "

That's how to make a fag mix, for use in bongs, buckets, chillumns and lungs.....

There may well be a side effect of a slight reduction in chems in the baccy, depending on how toasted the fag is, but it's purpose ( so says I ) is to make it easier to mix with hash.
 

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imak said:
while on the subject (and ive been noticing this for years) when people are building chillums they be warming up (thats how i'd describe it as the paper doesnt burn) the paper around a cigarette with their lighter flame before unloading the tobacco for a chillum mix - i asked why > they said [californian hiipy drawl]"..cos it burns of the naaasty chemicals maaan"

sounds like utter bollocks to me! as the contents are barely warmed and defo not a high enough temp to burn of any chems surely

anyone shed any light or back me up on this?

This dries the tobacco and makes it easier to crumble into powder, simple as that. I used to do this for bong mixes.
 

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american spirit has less chemicals in tit and a lower moisture contebt in the baccy...which apparently makes difference or summik...its all writen on the american spirit packet or probably on their website......it you believe what they write....
american spirit AFAIK can mainly be baught in oddbins in this country...well in leeds anyway
 
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