Ephedrix

On the ridiculously cheesy side of trance - identikit Israeli sound (the structure is just so overdone, boring, predictable and, err, clubby) - but I'll still listen to this type of music for nostalgic purposes occasionally. :o

This has to be one of my favourite cheesetrance tracks:



:o :o :o
 
Fairy muff, man. I think a lot of people probably start out on this style because it's easy to digest and serves as a good intro to psytrance. However, I don't find it particularly psychedelic (or, should I say, trippy - this forum is a hotbed for different definitions of psychedelia ;) ). More of a club-oriented sound with a similar structure to most forms of dance music. I find it a little off-putting because of this, but eh, I'm going off on one now... :D
 
haha fair enuff!

well im going to see absolum and scorb tonight maybe they will put me in a different frame of mind!!
 
Ahh, at Sunrise? Have fun, dude. Scorb is wicked - very nice sound! Used to dig Absolum but I find them a bit too all over the place these days.

...yeah, I'm a picky bastard, lol.
 
just asking, but doesn't most psy fit into the typical dance music structure?

I thought Ephedrix were from Belgium, it's a morning sound. It depends if you like trance really ;)
not all trance is cheese, it has to be well written to pull off a good breakdown, but like every genre you have to find the gems

you might like more of the stuff on Dacru bighouse :)
 
the only really good album was Avenida de Belgica from Digicult, their second album sucked because they turned it into isreali-cheese.. all other artists in Dacru follow this formula and is all boring for me at least, poppy fullon

morning sound does not mean formulaic boring dance music imo as well

best morning music is pure Goa trance imho

the only music that can really represent the majestic sun and his cursive infinite power
 
yeah some of its cheesy on toasted - I liked that digicult album though

the odd track here and there on the label is ok, I quite like some of the remixes - a lot is too poppy for me, but a lot of people like it :)
I think a whole album of great tracks is rare now, more likely to find singles, compilations or EP's that are good
 
I think I might have been guilty of playing that toasted tune in a club. And will do so again any time the vibe is such that I can get away with a build with sampled cheering and clapping in it :D
 
badger said:
just asking, but doesn't most psy fit into the typical dance music structure?
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Hmm, not all of it per se... The forest stuff I'm into tends not to have such an outlined, specific structure... it just flows better when it isn't stopping left, right and centre, IMO.

This, for example, has a less defined structure:

badger said:
I thought Ephedrix were from Belgium, it's a morning sound. It depends if you like trance really ;)
not all trance is cheese, it has to be well written to pull off a good breakdown, but like every genre you have to find the gems
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Fairy muff. I like the morning sound exemplified by artists such as Ovnimoon, who manage to stay melodic without descending too much into cheese territory. Stuff like Ephedrix reminds me of Astrix/the HOMMega sound a little too much. :)
 
yeah, I know what you mean - Ephedrix have down some nice tracks, can't say I listen to anything on Hommega, I do tend to avoid the Astrix type of sound. It is hard to get the melody right without it being cheesy - perhaps it's tracks in a major key that can go a bit awry, I think it must be really hard to write a melodic track.

I'll have a listen to the forest track and see what you mean about structure, I think in trance the bits where it stops and then hits a build up has an affect on the crowd, it's the space that really brings you up, before being hit with a massive bassline again and you get a rush :)
 
Aye, I know what ya mean; the breakdowns are there to give the dancers a rest while at the same time building up their anticipation for the next drop... I don't enjoy this much tho, especially if I'm tripping; I find it actually does the exact opposite of what it says on the tin, and actually takes me out of a trance. That's why I think the name 'trance' can be quite a misnomer.
 
I guess maybe tripping might be different, but with pills, mandy or candyflipping trance has the desired effect :)

+1 morning psy when it's morning too - nice tune blipblop ;)

ps nothing like a good key change at the right time too :)
 
badger said:
I guess maybe tripping might be different, but with pills, mandy or candyflipping trance has the desired effect :)

+1 morning psy when it's morning too - nice tune blipblop ;)

ps nothing like a good key change at the right time too :)
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Indeed!

My favorite combo is to hit the short lasting psychs in the dead of night, culminating in some massively psychedelic dark, dirty and layered tunes then smoothing off to lovely melodic twilight into the full on hook driven sounds of morning.

Then maybe some prog to roll around the floor in happiness to.

I think full on and dark equal in the amount of shite each pump out... the fun is digging for the goodies
 
agreed :)

I think also when listening to a lot of trance, it is written to be mixed - so as a stand alone piece of music, people might wonder what all the intro/outro parts are for, but it's dj friendly and goes all the way back to the vinyl days, you need to have minimal sections of the tune to harmonise a mix - techno, the forest psy and anything else that is more percussion orientated you don't have to have those sections.

I did listen to the forest tune, and I can see what you mean psychodanic about the structure (no intro/outro build up or breakdown) but the rhythm patterns are no different, if I was going to mix it, I would mix it (dare I say!) like techno. I imagine a dj could have a lot of fun doing more tricks that would sound out of place in a trance mix :)

anyway there is a time of the day and night for all styles, but I'm quite partial to rolling around in happiness to prog any day of the week ;)
(bighouse should check out the vibrasphere thread for some blissful tunes)
 
PsycheDanic said:
Aye, I know what ya mean; the breakdowns are there to give the dancers a rest while at the same time building up their anticipation for the next drop... I don't enjoy this much tho, especially if I'm tripping; I find it actually does the exact opposite of what it says on the tin, and actually takes me out of a trance. That's why I think the name 'trance' can be quite a misnomer.
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Nothing wrong with a good breakdown as one tool in the dance music box. It's when it's in every single track it gets a bit wearing.

A complete lack of breakdowns is as predictable as a breakdown in every track though :irazz:
 
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