The next step for psytrance...
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psyfi
Pie Fly
Maybe there is a guide book some place that will tell us the definitions that we are all supposed to know anyway. If we are not sure what the definitions are then how can they serve their purposes? That's if they really have one to serve.
Now if you all don't mind I'm going to listen to some morning psy in the afternoon just to be obstinate
solar bud
alternative NRG
The first time someone mentioned morning trance to me, I thought they meant mourning trance.
Missing-Link
looking forward
I had this conversation the other week, Id like more acid lines please an infusion of acid techno psy trance joy of layerd sounds that build and build 
you mean acid-trance then?
nobodyreally
Fat idiot.
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Are they stupid because they listen to that music, or do they listen to that music because they are stupid?
I fully support any subculture that means that kind of person has somewhere to go other than pie parties.
</vitriolic hypocrisy>
psyfi
Pie Fly
It is a bit like someone let a holiday rep on the stage
JohnM
blah blah blah
Anyone of a certain age may have had the mis-fortune to have to put up with MC Teabag on a Megadog night out...
Missing-Link
looking forward
You know its all about the acid line
@ Torison Jim I was tring to make reference to the old boschland/Prolekult records.
psyfi
Pie Fly
I hear allot of talk about 'old sounds and styles. Is the next step really going to be a backwards one?
Speakafreaka
Champagne Rouletter
Two steps forward and one step back, hopefully.
psyfi
Pie Fly
I was just being cheeky :p
I'm hoping it'll be a return to the musical styles of past psy trance but with more modern production techniques. Say if Infected Mushroom had the equipment we have now when they were writing their first album.
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EE'SH/ Foolish Rogue
hmm, i think the next step for psy will be for the people who don't really like it very much to actually stop listening to it, stop coming out to it and stop complaining about it and letting the people who love it get on with it! (wishfull thinking, I know)
Bacchanal
semilanceated
Either 'early-onset-dementia psy' or straight-edge psy, that's your choice :p
solar bud
alternative NRG
I would have thought that the fact that someone is asking the question in the first place indicates a degree of dissatisfaction with the status quo . . . as someone who is a very small and unremarkable part of the status quo, I don't personally feel at all offended by the answers here.
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EE'SH/ Foolish Rogue
it was a slightly tounge in cheek grouchy morning answer tbh....
In all honesty, I think that the next step for psytrance lies in the production of it's events. As a scene we have always pushed decor, lighting and sound quality to create fully immersive environments, and recent years has seen much more lighting control thrown in to the mix (think extradimensional space agency decor and lighting combos) I think the next stages will be 3D visualls, holographic displays and true immersive environments. At the end of the day If you go to a psy night and hear (most) tracks played loud through a rig (even ones from a few years back) you're still going to dance. I think what has always kep psytrance distinguished from other hard hance is this willingness to push forwards with production values and adopting new technological techniques.
As long as computing power keeps going the way it has been and our anal retention to detail doesn't drop, the music will continure to do it's thing too.
In all honesty, I think that the next step for psytrance lies in the production of it's events. As a scene we have always pushed decor, lighting and sound quality to create fully immersive environments, and recent years has seen much more lighting control thrown in to the mix (think extradimensional space agency decor and lighting combos) I think the next stages will be 3D visualls, holographic displays and true immersive environments. At the end of the day If you go to a psy night and hear (most) tracks played loud through a rig (even ones from a few years back) you're still going to dance. I think what has always kep psytrance distinguished from other hard hance is this willingness to push forwards with production values and adopting new technological techniques.
As long as computing power keeps going the way it has been and our anal retention to detail doesn't drop, the music will continure to do it's thing too.
Missing-Link
looking forward
I think it's good that as a genre people whant to progress bring in some new and some old
and mix it up a bit... I gona go now lol
Speakafreaka
Champagne Rouletter
I know exactly what you mean here, and agree ... but for me very personally, I'd quite like to go as far away from IM's sound as humanly possible, and that includes the first 3/2/1 albums (delete according to taste). As I say, I do definitely agree with your point here in principal if not actual taste ... but maybe this is exactly the problem with futureretrospectivism ... we're all still unagreed on what was good and what wasn't. I'd be very interested if Talamasca went back to the ideas in his first album (and dropped all those fucking samples in the bin) - but would that really be progress? I don't know. Perhaps the only way to really progress by going backwards is to attempt to adopt something as subjective as 'vibe', and forget the specifics.
As I say, I really haven't got a clue, just loose end noodling on the internet.
I did, on the other hand find it very interesting that 'Goa' was the sound that most people expressed an interest in on the recent Ektoplazm survey. I would have liked to have seen age demographics as well. Was this just appealing to people who've been in the scene for 15+ years, or was this appealing to people new to the scene?
Anyhow, if I recall the survey correctly, the two genres generating the most interest were forest and goa. Full on was way down (two years in a row), so I think it would be fair to say that we are definitely looking at a scene in flux style wise atm. Interesting times.