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hola!
ive noticed that the samples that i use in my tunes often are not very clear coming out of a rig (but fine on a stereo). just wondered if there are any sneaky tricks for making sure people hear them!
any one know the frequency range of a male and female spoken vocal (rough estimate)? is just boosting the frequencys enough?

anyho, cheers guys!


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I find using an exciter or something similar helps in this area too
 

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jsainsbury + sax absolutely nailed it between them

as for freq range of human voices - as i recall correctly telephones are setup to carry about 1 or 2k - 5k.
 

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RVox is the one... quick, easy and frighteningly effective. For getting rid of noise I rate the Sonic Foundry noise reduction plugin very highly; for the track I've just beenworking on I've managed to isolate a sample from a film in which the background music -orchestral - was very nearly as loud as the speech. Sonic Foundry NR, RVox and some EQ sorted it right out.
 

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Ok outta my league a little:
but from a listerners point of view-subtlety is more (less is more).
You can have a vocal that is sharp loud and clear and every1 hears it.
You can vocode it so its only audible in some lucid state - fun too?
Of course that has nothing to do with the gain settings.
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try using a compressor with a side chain. You can then use the vocal to duck the offending parts subtly (maybe 1-2db) as dj's do (albeit unsubtly) when they voice over.
 

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Strep said:
try using a compressor with a side chain. You can then use the vocal to duck the offending parts subtly (maybe 1-2db) as dj's do (albeit unsubtly) when they voice over.

That sounds good. How would you do this in Logic/Cubase say? Or could you just lower the volume automation when the vocal sounds?

Sax James.
 

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and before a smug emagic user says it, allow a steinberg user to come clean...

there is no sidechain in current Cubase/Nuendo. its slated for VST3 i think.
 

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still the Steinberg native compressor isn't that great in any case compared with TC Native. I guess you and others would use that instead.
 

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true, the steinberg plugins are (with a few exceptions) ruddy awful, and the tc compressor is one of my favourites

but u misunderstand me - i'm not talking about the capabilities of the plugins, i'm talking about the host. even tho the tc supports sidechaining, the VST2 spec does not, so you wont be able to sidechain the tc in cubase.
 

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db-audioware compressor has 4 sidechain busses and works in SX. Waves C1 will sidechain between the right and left sides of a stereo signal and works in SX. Find a tutorial on it here. The tutorial is geared towards kick and bass cross-compression but the techniques are applicable to anything.

Riding the volume would also work very well.
 

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you just need the 'sidechainer' plugin, in the TC native pack


put that on an insert for the 'key'

then open up the compressor and use the 'key' to duck the compressor


it works :cool: :cool:
 
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